I got stupid. The money was too good.

Jayne ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sue - Aug 25, 2009 3:37:00 pm PDT #5574 of 30001
hip deep in pie

There's a show on the Canadian History Channel called the Reinventors, where they take patents that were never made, build them and see if they work. I wise there was a way to submit ideas, because I would totally submit the banana thing. [link]


Hil R. - Aug 25, 2009 4:12:36 pm PDT #5575 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Hil, that story sounds very off. And I distinctly don't like that one of the girl's main defenders is the founder of Jihad Watch, which I came across while looking for online reviews of a thoughtful, well-written apologetics-for-the-general-public book written by an American Muslim woman I'd just read, and found a whack-ass raging screed by him about what a monstrous liar and bloodstained terrorist apologist she was.

According to the article in Time magazine, she was a cheerleader before she ran away from home.


Barb - Aug 25, 2009 4:53:45 pm PDT #5576 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

I already posted Lewis' first offering to the Dalek conversation in COMMA, because it was that good, but I'll repost here:

Mary Kay Dalek: EXFOLIATE! EXFOLIATE!

But then he came up with another-- lead-footed Dalek: ACCELERATE! ACCELERATE!

My husband, he is a bent, bent man. Which is why I love him, of course.


Cashmere - Aug 25, 2009 5:00:29 pm PDT #5577 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I have two months to convince my kids to dress up for Halloween as an Away Team from Star Trek.

On a mission to explore strange, new neighborhoods. To seek out new life and new kinds of candy.


Barb - Aug 25, 2009 5:04:34 pm PDT #5578 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

Swear to God, Cash, I had to zoom in on the boy's head to see if that was his real hair or if he was wearing some sort of wig.

But otherwise, those are ROCKIN' costumes. I have no idea if the rugrats will be wanting to dress up this year. Considering that Halloween is my least favorite holiday, I won't be heartbroken.

Which probably makes me a bad parent, right?


Typo Boy - Aug 25, 2009 5:09:00 pm PDT #5579 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OK this is a really belated reply to Hec.

In terms of being able to feed and supply basic needs for everyone in the world - it has been physically possible with resources and labor available since at least some years before WWI. Bucky Fuller wrote about this a great deal. My own stuff deals with out ability not only to do this, but do it sustainably. My on-line book No Hair Shirt Solutions to Global Warming deals with this mainly from an energy perspective, also from stuff like building construction, raw materials and food. [link]

For something a bit shorter you could try my article published in Z magazine "Cooling a Fevered Planet". [link] . This is mainly about the economics, and deals with how pure markets tend to fail in terms of sustainability and providing enough for everyone.

Since they cut my endnotes out leaving pure assertion without evidence, a shorter more recent piece, "Growing a Better World" does have some documentation and endnotes. [link]

In terms arguments over capitalism vs. socialism, I would say that trying to start a form of socialism that relied on pure altruism would be as foolish as trying to run capitalism on pure rational long term self-interest. Neither really reflects the way people operate. Any economic system needs reflect that people operate both altruistically and self-interestedly, and that for the most part we are not rational creatures in either mode. I would say this rules out pure capitalism or pure socialism, and makes the case for mixed systems that don't expect most people to be either Galt or Hillel.


Cashmere - Aug 25, 2009 5:09:37 pm PDT #5580 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

It doesn't make you a bad parent, Barb. It's not everyone's cup o' tea. As our kids get older, I'd like Halloween to be our Christmas, really. It's a lot less stressful and with less snow.


Barb - Aug 25, 2009 5:13:58 pm PDT #5581 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

I've always admired people who can go all out for Halloween because it does seem like a ton of fun. My issues with it are all about the walking outside in the dark because I'm a big wuss.


Kat - Aug 25, 2009 5:52:59 pm PDT #5582 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

We've been discussing costumes for Grace and Noah. K is not a big Halloweenie, but I am. Last year they were Thing 1 and Thing 2. The problem is that both kids are indoors for a party at Grace's place and it's hot so we need costumes where they can be cool. I'm thinking woodland fairy for Grace. But what's equivalent for Noah.


Barb - Aug 25, 2009 6:07:05 pm PDT #5583 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

But what's equivalent for Noah

Puck.