And I wonder, what possible catastrophe came crashing down from heaven and brought this dashing stranger to tears?

Drusilla ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


flea - Aug 19, 2009 5:53:21 am PDT #4524 of 30001
information libertarian

racial education task force

When I lived in Cincinnati, there was a wickedly funny and sometimes deep column in the city paper called Your Negro Tour Guide (by a black woman, natch.)


Gudanov - Aug 19, 2009 6:00:25 am PDT #4525 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

what exactly is that and why can you appreciate it?

People are stuck in neighborhoods with terrible schools and don't have the opportunities of people who can move out. I understand it happens, but I can appreciate it because I was living right there in the midst. The kids in those neighborhoods are going to go to schools that are run more like political footballs than places of education. I didn't live it because I had the financial means to move out when it became an actual issue, but I got a glimpse.


Gudanov - Aug 19, 2009 6:06:28 am PDT #4526 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

What I meant by structural discrimination is that here you have this neighborhood where there is abundant crime and horrible schools. The kids there (not all of them, but probably many) are going to lack the opportunities needed to have the financial means to afford something other than the same kind of neighborhood and so the cycle continues.


Vortex - Aug 19, 2009 6:07:04 am PDT #4527 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I see, but why is it called "structural discrimination"

eta: thanks. Is that your term, or is it used commonly?


Gudanov - Aug 19, 2009 6:08:14 am PDT #4528 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

Maybe it's not. I may be misremembering the term.


Vortex - Aug 19, 2009 6:12:35 am PDT #4529 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I may be misremembering the term.

okay, cause it sounds like treating houses differently based on whether it has wood studs or sheet rock :)


amych - Aug 19, 2009 6:13:20 am PDT #4530 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

there was a wickedly funny and sometimes deep column in the city paper called Your Negro Tour Guide

This sounds a lot like ¡Ask A Mexican!, which I heartily recommend to anyone who doesn't know it.


tommyrot - Aug 19, 2009 6:13:50 am PDT #4531 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

okay, cause it sounds like treating houses differently based on whether it has wood studs or sheet rock :)

Anyway, God wants us to use brick.


Typo Boy - Aug 19, 2009 6:15:56 am PDT #4532 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

"Structural Racism" is probably the term Gudanov thinking of. Racism rather than discrimination, because the point is that it is something built into the system that perpetuates white supremacy without anyone having to consciously discriminate - that will continue simply by people doing nothing and will require positive action to change. The distinction between structural and individual racism is important because structural racism is much easier for white people to pretend does not exist when dealing with other white people.


Trudy Booth - Aug 19, 2009 6:17:01 am PDT #4533 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm pretty sure God loves ALL the building materials, he just wants brick houses with brick houses and sheet rock with sheet rock.

(Wood studs are all going to hell.)