Natter 64: Yes, we still need you
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
And even weirder was being around so many white Christians.
That's the sort of place I grew up. My parents tried very hard to raise my sister and me as non-racists, but it was all very theoretical until I moved to Greensboro, NC, just before 11th grade. Now I feel odd every time I go back north to visit my sister.
I'd never been around so many white people in my life.
It is very, very white--especially in the small towns. But it's changing all the time. There are larger communities of hispanics, as well as Somalis and other groups. The change takes a loooooong time, though.
To this day, I am uncomfortable in any homogeneous setting.
Doesn't bother me until people start expecting some specific sort of behaviour out of me. I've been the only black girl in the whole school, and I've lived in the black majority country or area. They both can have their oppressions.
I appreciate every time someone who missteps wants to fix things so they don't make the same mistake again. That way rifts are healed, sometimes before they are even made. By the same token it can get really old when you're the racial education task force
again.
And even weirder was being around so many white Christians.
My current neighborhood is very racially/ethnically diverse. The community center where I work out seems to break down to about 75% black, 25% white. There's also always a lot of kids, because the community center has a teen after-school program, kids' karate and ballet classes, and basketball in the gymnasium.
I didn't realize how accustomed I am to the proportions of races and ages at the gym, until last night. As I was leaving the gym, a bunch of people were arriving for a workshop of some sort, and it was all boomer-age white men and women in business suits, and I thought "What the hell are they doing here?"
My sister lives near Detroit, which has a huge African-American population. But she lives in the 'burbs, and boy howdy, are the 'burbs around Detroit segregated. I've never seen a non-white person in her neighborhood, at her church, or in the nearby grocery store. And she's not in a particularly wealthy area—just really, really white.
While NC is far from a perfect example of racial harmony, the neighborhoods I've seen and lived in haven't been quite that unmixed.
Growing up in the NJ suburbs, just twenty miles outside of NY, ethnic diversity was just as common as racial diversity. When we moved to Wyoming for that year, it was very strange -- everyone was not only white, but Christian and with extremely watered-down European roots. I really missed the Italian bakeries and cooking, and Irish bars, and families of Orthodox Jews walking to services.
It's Wednesday, right? This week feels really long.
boy howdy, are the 'burbs around Detroit segregated
Most segregated area in the US according to a study done a few years ago. You just hop from pocket to pocket of ethnicity, with barely a hint that each exists beyond any given border. Can make for some severe whiplash. And I get the impression that folk don't travel that much, from some of the stares I got.
There's a very low level of ethnic diversity in my life. We used to live a majority black neighbor hood until the kids came along, but the extremely high crime rate and horrific schools (unaccredited, school board disbanded and taken over by the state, shootings at the high school bad) and smallness of house drove us to move. It gave me a an appreciation for structural discrimination. Kids growing up there would have severe disadvantages.
Kansas City is pretty segregated too. You can have that odd effect of everybody being black, traveling a couple blocks and suddenly everybody is white.
But she lives in the 'burbs, and boy howdy, are the 'burbs around Detroit segregated.
I was pretty much born and raised in this part of Michigan and the segregation STILL freaks me out. My Detroit "burb" is pretty diverse, though not as diverse as I once thought once I looked at census data awhile ago. I would have said, and did say, that I thought my town was about 50/50 African American and Caucasian, with some Hispanic and Asian. Turns out, a lot more white folks than I perceived. Which, turned me for a loop for a long time.