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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sue - Aug 15, 2009 8:35:23 am PDT #3971 of 30001
hip deep in pie

I am not a strong swimmer, but I do love the water. I dislike many things found in the water including, seaweed, slime, leeches, jellyfish, eels. I have never swum in anything resembling a river, I think the currents would freak me out. The ocean is great, but I am always aware of the undertow. I tend to more play in the waves and swim towards shore. Also, the ocean is f-ing cold around here, so one can't stay in for too long.


Amy - Aug 15, 2009 8:40:23 am PDT #3972 of 30001
Because books.

They tried to tell me I'd outgrow it but, either out of orneryness or my actual nature, I never did.

All three of our kids are like this. Last time we went to the beach (Lake Ontario), Sara got out of the water maybe twice, for a minute or two. And we were there for a good three hours.


aurelia - Aug 15, 2009 8:46:44 am PDT #3973 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

If it's not too cold I may be swimming in this lake next week. [link]


§ ita § - Aug 15, 2009 8:47:08 am PDT #3974 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can read on the train home.

Reading is so marvellous on a sunny beach with the thundering of the ocean waves, though. Don't get me wrong, I love being in the ocean, but it has to be very warm both in the water and out. Not even Jamaica makes the par every time. I only made it into the water once last time I took a beach vacation there. But I spent a fair amount of time either fully dressed sitting on the beach reading, or sitting half in the pool reading. Where I could still hear the ocean.


Vortex - Aug 15, 2009 8:55:22 am PDT #3975 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

A&E showed a marathon of the first CM episodes and they were all such cuties. Shemar in a suit, Thomas Gibson with floppy hair, dolls.

I need to rewatch those. I love the show now, but the first episodes were tainted by my resentment that The Inside had been cancelled.

My dad taught me and my brother how to swim. My mother was deathly afraid of the water, and didn't want us near it, but my dad put his foot down. I still remember how he would move out a few feet and say "swim to me", and then sloooooooowly move back. I remember when I looked up and realized that I was in the DEEP END and panicked, and my daddy saved me. :)


§ ita § - Aug 15, 2009 9:21:21 am PDT #3976 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The CM crew really love Reid. They pushed him hard on the audience in those beginning eps. They don't push him as hard now, but he does tend to get the big trauma episodes, what with the drug addiction, etc.

My mother can't/doesn't swim, but did a fair amount in not transmitting that to us--in fact she helped teach us. She's good with the theory, but easily scared by the water.


Ginger - Aug 15, 2009 10:06:25 am PDT #3977 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I'm so glad they're safe, Cash. My mother is terrified of water and can't swim, partly because her mother was also scared of water and didn't want any of her children in it. My mother, on the other hand, made sure we took swimming lessons, because she didn't want us to have the same fear and she knew that she couldn't save us.

Even though I could swim, I came close to drowning once in a pool when I was 7 or 8. I was walking from the shallow end, and when I hit the part that was over my nose, I couldn't make the transition to swimming and I couldn't get my footing to get back to shallow water, so I ended up bobbing up and down and breathing in water. I remember how helpless I felt. Fortunately, the pool lifeguard spotted me.

CM is one of the few shows that I think has gotten better over time.


javachik - Aug 15, 2009 10:38:19 am PDT #3978 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

(Dear Cashmere, that wasn't a PARENTFAIL. Your children are safe because you and your family were scrutinizing every inch of their play and, as children will, they tested you. You passed the test; they're alive. Please don't beat yourself up. You're one of the sanest, loving mommies I know.)


Liese S. - Aug 15, 2009 10:48:39 am PDT #3979 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

java is wise.

Also, I was really traumatized by swimming lessons when I was a kid. I don't know why. But seriously, screaming and crying and mom pushing me through the door and the whole bit. I'm sorry mom!

And then later, I was totally fine. And I was fine with water, and beaches and whatnot. It was just the actual lesson in the pool I objected to. No clue why.


Hil R. - Aug 15, 2009 10:51:38 am PDT #3980 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Bob Dylan detained by police who don't recognize him and think he might have wandered away from a psychiatric hospital. [link]