Book: Afraid I might be needing a preacher. Mal: That's good. You lie there and be ironical.

'Safe'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Dec 30, 2009 2:52:13 pm PST #28202 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hec! Your wife is falling down on the job!

Yeah, well, she never schlubs around. It was good for her.

Hec, I remember what Empress Dowager Lu did to Concubine Qi, and I think you were wise not to link to it!

I lost sleep over it! Seriously, humans disappoint me.

On that same point I'm working for my friend who is a defense attorney and I was organizing her media, which is to say: police interrogation recordings, 911 calls, photos of the crime scene etc. Sheesh.

erika, after going through this stuff I can vouch for the veracity of "crime makes you stupid." OMG, they're so stupid!

Officer: I'm going to read you your Miranda rights...
Perp: I know my damn rights! blah blah implicating thing. Blah blah names. Blah blah that doesn't count as criminal. It does? WTF? I just blah blah?! Well, so and so did it too.

Plus! The cops totally exploit the ignorance.

"Well, you know we've got the whole thing on tape."

"I didn't do it! It was blah blah! Okay, I was there, but didn't do the thing. Okay, I did the thing but that doesn't count because I was kind of drunk. Do I need an attorney here?"

Plus, everybody has seen just enough CSI to believe that DNA evidence is magic, so the cops exploit that too.

"You know if you pretty much blinked in the presence of the crime we'll have your eyelash flakes."
"Okay, well I can explain how my DNA might've gotten there. See I picked up the thing and handed it to other guy. But he's the one who did it!"


Connie Neil - Dec 30, 2009 2:55:32 pm PST #28203 of 30001
brillig

Patrick Stewart and Peter Jackson are going to be knighted! In fact, Jackson already has been, in New Zealand.

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Jesse - Dec 30, 2009 2:56:56 pm PST #28204 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Seriously, never ever talk to cops without a lawyer, I don't care if it makes them think you're guilty.


brenda m - Dec 30, 2009 2:59:52 pm PST #28205 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

For serious. To continue with Frank Pembleton, I always remember his explanation of the detective's job as a salesman, "selling a long prison term to a customer who has no use for the product."


Tom Scola - Dec 30, 2009 3:00:47 pm PST #28206 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Martha Stewart didn't go to prison for the thing she was charged with, she went to prison for talking to the Feds without a lawyer.


DavidS - Dec 30, 2009 3:30:15 pm PST #28207 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

They even did "It'd be a shame for you to take the whole blame for this thing yourself." Names come pouring out.

It's funny watching how they equivocate at first. They don't want to snitch. But the cops just keep circling around on the story until little details start hanging loose, and they pull on the thread and it starts to unravel.

The police also did some good detective work with the CSI unit. Did you know that condoms come in lot numbers? Yep. So an unopened condom can be linked to the box in your bedroom.


erikaj - Dec 30, 2009 3:33:57 pm PST #28208 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah, there is a court decision that says cops can lie their asses off to get confessions...I looked it up for a fanfic but I forget. ETA: Terry McClarney, who is a Baltimore detective that David Simon is a big fanboy of, says that the biggest change in law enforcement in twenty years is that cops can tell a cornerboy they found epithelial cells(sp) and the cornerboy will feel screwed. I freaked out on my father when he suggested my brother handle his DUI without an attorney. I'm not sure that even whiteboy justice is that good. My dad doesn't watch enough TV sometimes.


Vortex - Dec 30, 2009 3:38:18 pm PST #28209 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yes, the police are allowed to lie to a suspect in an attempt to coerce a confession, decided in Frazier v. Cupp.


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2009 3:45:32 pm PST #28210 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

So an unopened condom can be linked to the box in your bedroom.

Moral of the story? Use 'em up, people!


§ ita § - Dec 30, 2009 3:53:29 pm PST #28211 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Moral of the story? Use 'em up, people!

Or, not at all, I guess. You are the bad guy, after all.

Hey, how did someone get busted by condom?