See, in my fantasy, when I'm kissing you... you're kissing me. It's okay. I can wait.

Oz ,'First Date'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cass - Dec 20, 2009 6:57:41 pm PST #26476 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

San Diego Zoo and Wild Animal Park has a polar bear conservation program too. You can also help out the animals at their facilities but, frankly, I support their outside efforts more. There are some very generous donations that help out with the animals there already.

I am doing the elephants for my dad. He can track the ones with GPS locator chipies online. I think he'll dig that. And Heifer Intl for a few people too.


Cass - Dec 20, 2009 6:58:37 pm PST #26477 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Waitaminute, Heifer doesn't give actual goats. I mean, I don't know why I am so invested in it, but I want the actual goats going somewhere... Well, the bees. Because I like the idea that people are getting bees.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2009 7:00:26 pm PST #26478 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've got to get my apartment shipshape for when my sister shows up. Coincidentally I've done a lot of updates to the sites over the past few days, but the apartment is looking better.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2009 7:06:39 pm PST #26479 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Looking at the site now, Cass, it does seem like you give a literal animal or share thereof, but for some reason the materials that my sister was sent when I donated in her name a few years ago made us both think they were being symbolic. We might have been wrong, or it might have changed.


Steph L. - Dec 20, 2009 7:21:49 pm PST #26480 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I got a catalog from Heifer International this year, and it seemed like they give literal animals. Maybe I mis-read. But they talk about what the people can do with, for instance, a bunch of chickens -- they get eggs for themselves, and sell what they can't eat, which gives them a financial leg up.

I wouldn't think that would be possible with symbolic animals. (Or am I misunderstanding you guys?)


Steph L. - Dec 20, 2009 7:33:31 pm PST #26481 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Octopus carries around coconut shells as "armor": [link]

Cephalopods are AWESOME.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2009 7:36:01 pm PST #26482 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've been a bad donor recently, so I couldn't tell you if there was a shift, or just an initial misapprehension. Maybe my gift was just as kewl as my sisters!


Cass - Dec 20, 2009 7:39:36 pm PST #26483 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I really just assumed that, if they weren't strictly literal critters, they still provided animals and such for people. If 30 people bought goats and no one bought chickens, they'd give families what was useful but still full critter value.

So logically I would support either option. But part of me wants a goat out there with "from: Cass" tattooed on its ass. Um, maybe not actually tattooed.


Cass - Dec 20, 2009 7:40:31 pm PST #26484 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I vote that your gift was kewl.

This is possibly because I got a goat last year (and chickens the year before) and I want that goat to exist. Until ritually sacrificed or curried.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2009 7:43:33 pm PST #26485 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It would be kinda cool if their website had inventory. No more chicks! They're all chicked up. Buy a buffalo share instead.

And then when they total things up there's one sixth of a heifer left over and someone gets a Godfather-style surprise.