Spike? It's you. It's really you! My therapist thought I was holding on to false hope, but…I knew you'd come back. You're like…you're like Gandalf the White, resurrected from the pit of the Balrog, more beautiful than ever. Oh…he's alive Frodo. He's alive.

Andrew ,'Damage'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Oct 19, 2009 11:15:54 am PDT #14400 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Ok, now I'm curious... What is dry drunk behavior?

Someone who isn't an alcoholic who drinks (either an alcoholic who quit drinking, or someone who was never an alcoholic but was raised by one/married to one/etc.), but whose behavior/thought/relationship patterns are still damaging/abusive/destructive, etc.

Dr. Google could probably elaborate better than I can.


Burrell - Oct 19, 2009 11:21:41 am PDT #14401 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Ok, now I'm curious... What is dry drunk behavior?

I was going to ask the same. I recall the phrase being used to describe GWB as well.


Ginger - Oct 19, 2009 11:25:41 am PDT #14402 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

There are certain obsessive characteristics associated with alcoholics such as lying, an overwhelming need to be right and being hypercritical of others that often still characterize people who have stopped drinking. I used to say I should make buttons to sell to Alanon that said "Sober is not enough."


meara - Oct 19, 2009 11:34:00 am PDT #14403 of 30001

Yeah, I knew what a dry drunk was, I guess I meant more what you meant by the typical behaviors, what was so typical/ what are those ?

(more what Ginger said)


flea - Oct 19, 2009 11:42:34 am PDT #14404 of 30001
information libertarian

Who among us does not have an overwhelming need to be right? I mean, we're Buffistas!

(We have a family thing where mr. flea says, "Oh well, right again," to me in his best Laurie Anderson imitation. I told him and the children last weekend in the car that the only reason I'm right so much is that when I don't know what's going on, I shut up. I only say stuff when I know what I'm talking about.)


Steph L. - Oct 19, 2009 11:50:35 am PDT #14405 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Yeah, I knew what a dry drunk was, I guess I meant more what you meant by the typical behaviors, what was so typical/ what are those ?

If Ginger's answer wasn't enough, I have to refer you to Dr. Google, because I am not an authority on alcoholic behavior; only that which I've personally experienced.

And this controlling bullshit, expecting literal perfection and then punishing you when you couldn't deliver (because who can?) -- that's alcoholic/dry drunk behavior. Or, I should say, that behavior is not uncommon among some, though of course not all, alcoholics/dry drunks.


megan walker - Oct 19, 2009 11:53:33 am PDT #14406 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

the only reason I'm right so much is that when I don't know what's going on, I shut up. I only say stuff when I know what I'm talking about.

Flea is me.

As my aunt likes to say: "J'ai pas toujours raison, mais j'ai rarement tort." (I'm not always right, but I'm seldom wrong).


Ginger - Oct 19, 2009 12:22:42 pm PDT #14407 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

My grandfather used to say, "I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken."


Sheryl - Oct 19, 2009 12:35:33 pm PDT #14408 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Happy Birthday Burrell! Happy Birthday Calli!


Kathy A - Oct 19, 2009 12:36:45 pm PDT #14409 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Blah. I have to work on my self-evaluation for my review next month, and have it done before I leave on my mini-vacation tomorrow afternoon. I don't wanna do this!!! I'd much rather have my boss say "Here's what you're supposed to do, here's how you're doing it, here's where you can improve, do you have any ideas of what you want/are planning to do this year? Great, we'll add it to the form here at the bottom under "Employee comments," sign off and we're done."

Instead, it's up to me to say, "Here's what I said I'd do, here's how much I've done, I think I'm 'this' good in five separate categories compared to our mission statement" and then my boss puts in her two cents.

The part I hate the most is the five-separate-categories section. Feh.