Tell me more good stuff about me.

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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Aims - Sep 24, 2009 11:09:38 am PDT #10745 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

If the only thing the student takes away from this class is not to use textspeak, then that's entirely on the student and not on the teacher. And I say that not as this particular teacher's sister, but because of my own beliefs on education.

There are going to be teachers that as a student, you don't like, and that are not going treat every student as that student feel they should be treated. Or, they are going to expect things that that student is going to disagree with. But the student has the choice to get past that and learn or sit there and focus on the fact that they think the teacher sucks.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Sep 24, 2009 11:10:25 am PDT #10746 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

The author of this post concludes you are correct.

It is good that this fact is now known by me.


Jesse - Sep 24, 2009 11:10:59 am PDT #10747 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'd rather say "the author conclueds," than "it was concluded that." Concluded by who?? WHOM???


Gudanov - Sep 24, 2009 11:12:17 am PDT #10748 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

I also try to avoid starting any sentence or clause with 'it was'.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Sep 24, 2009 11:13:19 am PDT #10749 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I'd rather say "the author conclueds," than "it was concluded that."

I'm in favour of writing 'I conclude.' Apparently the academic community doesn't like this construction. I don't care. I'm the one who's bloody well concluding.


Amy - Sep 24, 2009 11:13:47 am PDT #10750 of 30001
Because books.

I also try to avoid starting any sentence or clause with 'it was'.

But then we'd have no, "It was a dark and stormy night"!


ChiKat - Sep 24, 2009 11:14:21 am PDT #10751 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I don't think that you should have to tell your students not to use textspeak on assignments.

Actually, you do have to. She teaches middle school not college. If you want middle school students to do something or not do something, you have to be specific and tell them about it. Including things they should have learned in kindegarten like don't hit others or raise your hand to speak. And then you have to reinforce the expectations all year long because they will forget.

Is that babying them? Possibly. Is that meeting them at their developmental level and helping them to succeed? Absolutely.

As a middle school teacher, I expect more from my 7th graders than I do my 6th and more from 8th than 7th. But, I also give all of them direct instruction on expectations and give them a framework for success rather than assuming they already know. If they do already know, great. It's review.


tommyrot - Sep 24, 2009 11:14:37 am PDT #10752 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

But then we'd have no, "It was a dark and stormy night"!

Heh. I was considering making this exact post. With the same punctuation and everything.


Vortex - Sep 24, 2009 11:14:59 am PDT #10753 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

There are going to be teachers that as a student, you don't like, and that are not going treat every student as that student feel they should be treated. Or, they are going to expect things that that student is going to disagree with. But the student has the choice to get past that and learn or sit there and focus on the fact that they think the teacher sucks.

ITA. (yes, that was on purpose) :) This was the problem with my GA that I had to fire. She believed that being right was more important than being employed.

I am the first to admit that I come from the Fear Me school of teaching, but I will never forget the day that I got a thank you note from a student who had received the Truman Scholarship, for which I was on the committee. He said that he was really nervous when he saw me on the committee, but that I pushed him to work hard and nitpicked every detail and that ultimately helped him get the scholarship.

I keep that note and I pull it out and reread it when I get frustrated. It's not the only way, but it does work with some students.


Gudanov - Sep 24, 2009 11:16:06 am PDT #10754 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

But then we'd have no, "It was a dark and stormy night"!

Great writing sometimes means breaking a few rules.