Don't worry, I'm not gonna start any sword fights. I'm over that phase.

Mal ,'War Stories'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Sep 24, 2009 10:44:49 am PDT #10717 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

A crazy bitch in my Catholic school used to throw erasers at people. Not even a nun! Just an evil old lady.

We had a sub in grammar school who threw erasers and chalk. She was nuts.


aurelia - Sep 24, 2009 10:46:25 am PDT #10718 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I don't see holding up an example of what not to do as humiliation, especially if the kid isn't named.

I do think it is essential that kids learn how to communicate in a formal, business-like manner and I'm sure that (as in teaching any subject) different kids will respond to different approaches.


Steph L. - Sep 24, 2009 10:47:38 am PDT #10719 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

First, she didn't humiliate the kid,

You do not think that what the teacher did was humiliating. I do. You believe that you're right. I believe that I'm right. Ain't gonna change.

Second, it's not bullshit.

Oh, please. A middle-schooler. In math class, by the way, not English.

if you set the expectation that it's okay, you will have problems.

I may have misunderstood, but it sounded to me like the teacher did not explicitly say before the quiz that any use of textspeak or otherwise nonformal language would lead to a zero on the entire quiz.

Sure, lay out your rules clearly. I agree with that. But if you don't do so, punishing a student for not adhering to something that was never stated IS bullshit.


msbelle - Sep 24, 2009 10:49:13 am PDT #10720 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I cannot imagine what I would have done if a teacher threw things at a class that I was a part of. As early as 4th grade I know I called teachers out on what I considered unfair behavior, much less dangerous. I absolutely would have marched myself to the office at lunchtime or recess and reported the teacher to the secretary adn my mom would have heard an earful.


Kathy A - Sep 24, 2009 10:49:18 am PDT #10721 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

The next class after I turned in my first English paper in college, the prof wrote a sentence on the board and asked the class what was wrong with it. Everyone immediately pointed out the problem except for me--I was the one who wrote the sentence originally, and recognized it right away as mine. He never identified the writer, but I got the point: don't ever write that way again.

(I'm really brain dead today, trying to remember the proper grammatical term for my big error. Instead of saying "X did Y," I said "Y was done." What's that--indirect? Subjective? I can't think today!!)


flea - Sep 24, 2009 10:49:47 am PDT #10722 of 30001
information libertarian

Passive voice.


Cashmere - Sep 24, 2009 10:50:11 am PDT #10723 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'm sure that (as in teaching any subject) different kids will respond to different approaches.

Yes. This.

I guess I'd define good pedagogy as getting through to as many students as possible. When you're teaching to the group, it's sure as hell difficult to modify your teaching style for one student. Not that it shouldn't be done in some circumstances, but it's difficult.

I'm sure my thoughts on this subject will change as Owen heads through primary and into secondary school.


Aims - Sep 24, 2009 10:50:12 am PDT #10724 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

In math class, by the way, not English.

Yes, but her school system teaches cross-cirriculum. They teach writing in math, English in science, etc.


Steph L. - Sep 24, 2009 10:50:19 am PDT #10725 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

"Y was done."

Passive voice.

t edit flea is so much faster than me!


msbelle - Sep 24, 2009 10:51:12 am PDT #10726 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I ended a sentence in a preposition, didn't I? EAT IT, hard and fast rules!