I could squeeze you until you popped like warm champagne, and you'd beg me to hurt you just a little bit more.

Fuffy ,'Storyteller'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


megan walker - Sep 24, 2009 10:33:18 am PDT #10704 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I emphatically disagree. Humiliating a student is uncalled for, and I can't see how it would do anything other than put the kid off that subject/school for good. I've never heard anyone say their path in life was steered right by that really good dose of public humiliation they got from their teacher in front of the whole sixth grade back in P.S. 131.

The whole French school system is pretty much based on this--or rather, highlighting both the bad and the good. I remembered a few incidents in grad school when a French TA or professor didn't understand that calling someone out for shoddy work or a bad grade was something just not done.


Dana - Sep 24, 2009 10:33:58 am PDT #10705 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

A crazy bitch in my Catholic school used to throw erasers at people. Not even a nun! Just an evil old lady.


flea - Sep 24, 2009 10:34:27 am PDT #10706 of 30001
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Steph L. - Sep 24, 2009 10:34:56 am PDT #10707 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I don't bear any emotional scars from it.

That's good. It still doesn't make it good pedagogy.


Amy - Sep 24, 2009 10:35:35 am PDT #10708 of 30001
Because books.

My public school high school journalism teacher used to throw his stapler. We got him a sponge and a cup of water after a while.


Cashmere - Sep 24, 2009 10:35:51 am PDT #10709 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

My 8th grade social studies teacher also had a bell on his desk that he called his "dumb bell" and anyone asking a stupid question would get a ring from him.

It kept students on their toes and they really thought hard before asking a question in his class.


bon bon - Sep 24, 2009 10:36:30 am PDT #10710 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I remembered a few incidents in grad school when a French TA or professor didn't understand that calling someone out for shoddy work or a bad grade was something just not done.

The age is a big factor. Potential humiliation is a big part of law school pedagogy, and Bob Bob makes fun of his college students. I think a lot of the examples here elide the difference between expectations of an adolescent or adult and a kid. But a kid is different.


Gudanov - Sep 24, 2009 10:36:52 am PDT #10711 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

Seriously. Pulled a gun and just shot the girl right in her face.

Maybe Harry Whittington make a grammar error while talking on that hunting trip.


Calli - Sep 24, 2009 10:37:53 am PDT #10712 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I think a lot of the examples here elide the difference between expectations of an adolescent or adult and a kid. But a kid is different.

True, that. I was speaking from my experience in teaching adults. I have no idea about pedagogy for kids.


Aims - Sep 24, 2009 10:39:31 am PDT #10713 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Let me rephrase, then, because I think I'm coming across incorrectly. And also, this is total theory on my part as I am not a teacher. Yet.

Flat-out humiliating a student is wrong. Absolutely. 100% in agreement. Using something as an example to illustrate either "This is what I want." or "This is what I don't want." can be, in my opinion, an effective teaching tool. It gives concrete examples instead of abstract ones.

Now, regarding this particular instance with my sister: knowing my sister as I do as a teacher, I am 100% that how she handled it in front of the class, was not to humiliate the student. She didn't point at her, didn't name her, and didn't post the quiz on the blackboard. She said, "This particular type of answer is unacceptable. If you give this kind of answer on a quiz that has actual points, you *will* fail."