Do you know what else has blood in it? Blood.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Sep 24, 2009 8:26:34 am PDT #10616 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Well, per Wordnik, it's new. [link] Unlike OK, which has been widely used all of my life. [link]


Aims - Sep 24, 2009 8:29:40 am PDT #10617 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Oooh! I am loving Wordnik!!


Jesse - Sep 24, 2009 8:30:40 am PDT #10618 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Wordnik is the bizzomb. And Buffista-founded!


Aims - Sep 24, 2009 8:31:20 am PDT #10619 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Which makes it all the better.


Calli - Sep 24, 2009 8:37:06 am PDT #10620 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I find flunking a test based on one answer problematic. But I also wouldn't use FYI or OK on a test. Even in the dark days before texting, I told my students that we were using formal academic English on everything except their journals, and that they'd be graded accordingly. Would I have dismissed the rest of the test because of one IDK? Not at the beginning of the semester. At the end, hell yeah. Of course, if they didn't know better by that point they probably wouldn't have learned much else, either, so odds are I wouldn't have been trashing an otherwise perfect work.


Aims - Sep 24, 2009 8:43:05 am PDT #10621 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

In Sis' case, she went extreme at the beginning because for two years she has tried subtle and if there is one that she has learned about her students, it's that they don't get subtle. Big screaming fail, however, they get. Now, it's out there, everyone knows it, and from here on out they have no excuse not to use spelled out English words on short answers.


Aims - Sep 24, 2009 8:43:05 am PDT #10622 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Jessica - Sep 24, 2009 8:49:40 am PDT #10623 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

In Sis' case, she went extreme at the beginning because for two years she has tried subtle and if there is one that she has learned about her students, it's that they don't get subtle.

So now this girl is being punished for the actions of students in previous years' classes. How is that okay?

(I really really hate the "make an example of someone" method of teaching. For any reason, under any circumstances. It turns my stomach.)


Cashmere - Sep 24, 2009 8:50:28 am PDT #10624 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I just got a letter stating my insurance company will cover breast reduction surgery. Wow. I'm impressed and scared.


Kat - Sep 24, 2009 8:51:06 am PDT #10625 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I can understand the urge to go extreme. I think a public beheading of a child the first couple of days is an effective way of modifying behavior, because most kids assume those first actions have no consequences so they press boundaries.

I think failing a kid for using IDK on an answer where they were told to be clever is more extreme than I'd go personally. In situations like that I have just opted not to grade the paper and said that the child would have a zero until things were done correctly. It's the same short term result with the net long term possibility of fixing it and redemption in general.

I do have a zero tolerance policy for copying off of someone's papers and I will publicly humiliate both copier and copy-ee in the process of giving them a zero. But I'm pretty upfront about it.