Jayne (Husband): Oh, I think you might wanna reconsider that last part. See, I married me a powerful ugly creature. Mal (Wife): How can you say that? How can you shame me in front of new people? Jayne (Husband): If I could make you purtier, I would. Mal (Wife): You are not the man I met a year ago.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Sep 23, 2009 5:23:52 am PDT #10288 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Also, the Bible mentions male homosexuality five times, but doesn't mention lesbianism at all.

I think I knew that - although it's been pretty clear what fundamentalists I've known have thought of me being a practising* gay type. (One well-meaning lady at a church I used to attend, upon overhearing me mentioning my partner's name, actually offered to introduce me to an 'ex-gay' group she was involved with. My response being a hole in the church door that bore an uncanny resemblance to me.)

*The obligatory 'I do not need to practice - I'm rather good at it' joke goes here.


Jessica - Sep 23, 2009 5:25:14 am PDT #10289 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

There's an awful lot of misogyny wrapped up in Dobson's brand of homophobia - I think lesbians genuinely don't occur to him because he's so wrapped up in the idea of MEN ARE AWESOME, therefore SEX WITH MEN IS PROBABLY ALSO AWESOME, therefore IT IS SCARY AND PROBABLY ADDICTIVE AND THEREFORE IS WRONG.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Sep 23, 2009 5:31:37 am PDT #10290 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

There's an awful lot of misogyny wrapped up in Dobson's brand of homophobia

I think that's what I was trying to get at. Women are invisible in his doctrine. In more than one way - see his comment about 'outgrowing' mothers.


tommyrot - Sep 23, 2009 5:35:06 am PDT #10291 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

There's an awful lot of misogyny wrapped up in Dobson's brand of homophobia

Yeah. I think their world view goes like this: Men are better than women, so it sorta' makes sense that women might want to be like men (i.e. be butch and have sex with women (ignoring the fact that many lesbians are not butch)), but men wanting to be like women (their understanding, anyway) calls their whole world view into question....


msbelle - Sep 23, 2009 5:40:21 am PDT #10292 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

why can't I find merino wool plain cardigans? I thought it would be a simple search, but it seems cashmere is the only option for wool.


Jesse - Sep 23, 2009 5:41:47 am PDT #10293 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Women are invisible in his doctrine. In more than one way - see his comment about 'outgrowing' mothers.

Absolutely.


Amy - Sep 23, 2009 5:42:58 am PDT #10294 of 30001
Because books.

Women are invisible in his doctrine. In more than one way - see his comment about 'outgrowing' mothers.

Yes. That was the (first) point that enraged me.


Jessica - Sep 23, 2009 5:55:20 am PDT #10295 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Also, outgrowing women and living in a men-only world? Sounds kinda gay to me...


Jesse - Sep 23, 2009 5:55:51 am PDT #10296 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And when did my hairdresser become so popular?? I just called to make an after-work appointment, and the next one was October 13! Bananas!!


tommyrot - Sep 23, 2009 5:57:35 am PDT #10297 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

ION, go Boris!

Secret Service picked up drunken Yeltsin during Washington visit

Boris Yeltsin got so drunk during a 1995 visit to Washington that Secret Service agents found him a few hundred feet from the White House clad only in his underwear and trying to hail a cab — because, he explained, he wanted a pizza.

The encounter and near international incident involving the former Russian President was revealed yesterday in a new oral history of Bill Clinton’s presidency, based on 79 taped interviews between Mr Clinton and the historian Taylor Branch during late-night visits to the White House.

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The Yeltsin incident came after one of the former Russian President’s late-night drinking sessions. On the night in question, he was staying at Blair House, the guest quarters for foreign leaders visiting Washington, which sits directly across from the White House in Pennsylvania Avenue.

He managed to give his Secret Service detail the slip. Frantically looking for him, they found him in his underwear on Pennsylvania Avenue trying to get a taxi. He explained in slurred words that he wanted a pizza.

eta: Now I wanna know if he ever got his pizza....