Fire bad. Tree pretty.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Connie Neil - Mar 31, 2017 5:37:38 am PDT #5642 of 5827
brillig

Clint's family should be his brother and Pizza Dog.

Word.

Clint's family only shows up in the Avengers Ultimates universe--where Natasha kills them, for some reason. Joss is said to love Ultimates, which is why he pulled in the family, but the studio stopped them from getting killed.


Kalshane - Mar 31, 2017 9:12:49 am PDT #5643 of 5827
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Where did you hear that Joss wanted to kill the family? All I've heard is that the studio didn't want the farm scenes at all and Joss had to fight hard to include them.

As far as Batgirl is concerned, is it wrong that I'd rather have a Super BFFs movie instead?

Fred had a good relationship with both her parents, didn't she? (I realize that may be the lone example in all of Joss' work. Though I don't think we heard much about anyone's parents on Firefly, other than the Tams'.)


Fred Pete - Mar 31, 2017 9:17:14 am PDT #5644 of 5827
Ann, that's a ferret.

Yes, Fred was on friendly terms with her parents, but they lived a long way from Los Angeles. They weren't a regular part of her life.

I got the feeling that Cordelia was on good terms with her father, but more as a cash machine than as a father.


Connie Neil - Mar 31, 2017 9:19:04 am PDT #5645 of 5827
brillig

Where did you hear that Joss wanted to kill the family?

One of a dozen random websites, I don't remember which. It may have been extrapolation from Joss' love of Ultimates and of offing people. Think was, no one on the website was surprised at the idea.


Zenkitty - Apr 01, 2017 5:46:29 am PDT #5646 of 5827
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Fred had a good relationship with both her parents, didn't she? (I realize that may be the lone example in all of Joss' work. Though I don't think we heard much about anyone's parents on Firefly, other than the Tams'.)

Jayne and Kaylee seemed to have good relationships with their parents, but they were only mentioned a couple times. Bad relationships are more interesting. Joss's writing overall became less interesting to me after he had his first kid and all the stories had to have a kid or a family in them. Even in Firefly, if it had continued, Wash and Zoe would've had a baby. Although Darla's pregnancy storyline was one of the best ever, and made her a far more interesting character than she'd been before (and she was pretty interesting before). That was the only time I've ever been super-invested in a fictional pregnancy. Unfortunately, after the baby was born, Angel became nearly unbearable.


sumi - Apr 07, 2017 12:44:25 pm PDT #5647 of 5827
Art Crawl!!!

Connie, didn't DC already go backsies on The Killing Joke?


Connie Neil - Apr 07, 2017 12:46:59 pm PDT #5648 of 5827
brillig

I don't know, I haven't followed Batman since the early 2000s. After so long, I'm not surprised, but it's one of the best stories I've ever read.


Sheryl - Apr 07, 2017 1:54:03 pm PDT #5649 of 5827
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

sumi,

Well, Barbara Gordon can walk and is Batgirl again, but the events of The Killing Joke happened.(she had an experimental procedure done to regain her ability to walk)


Connie Neil - Apr 07, 2017 2:36:27 pm PDT #5650 of 5827
brillig

Huh, just last night I read a Birds of Prey number one where half of it was Barbara being Batgirl but having flashbacks back to The Killing Joke.


sumi - Apr 07, 2017 5:16:06 pm PDT #5651 of 5827
Art Crawl!!!

Thanks Sheryl, I stopped reading Batgirl a while back.