Lorne: You know what they say about people who need people. Connor: They're the luckiest people in the world. Lorne: You been sneaking peeks at my Streisand collection again, Kiddo? Connor: Just kinda popped out.

'Time Bomb'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Jessica - Oct 16, 2013 6:35:21 am PDT #3251 of 5827
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't understand this at all. How is this any different than any other show with a monster of the week format?

Maybe it's not. Maybe there are lots of boring procedurals I don't watch! But if that's all it's going to be, without stronger characters I'm gonna bail.


Jessica - Oct 16, 2013 6:38:16 am PDT #3252 of 5827
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Did Buffy ever explain why the Scoobies fought evil?

The Scoobies rarely heard about evil happening somewhere and went to fight it just because. Most of the evil they fought affected them very personally. I mean there's a reason most episodes weren't just about Buffy out on patrol dusting random vamps.

[AtS started out as a monster-of-the-week show, but changed into a character driven drama pretty fast because the writers realized the MOTW format wasn't going to work for their audience. I'm hoping SHIELD can do the same pivot.]


Steph L. - Oct 16, 2013 6:45:35 am PDT #3253 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Some of my dissatisfaction with the show is dread about what they're going to reveal about Coulson. I don't *want* him to be a clone/LMD/whatever. I was actually quite happy that that wasn't a plot point, till Amador brought it up.

I think it has been a point all season. It was just more subtle before last night.

Except for the premiere, with Dr. Ron Glass saying "He can never know," which is about as dramatic of an anvil as you can drop.


sj - Oct 16, 2013 6:51:36 am PDT #3254 of 5827
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Maybe it's not. Maybe there are lots of boring procedurals I don't watch! But if that's all it's going to be, without stronger characters I'm gonna bail.

For the record, I wasn't talking about procedurals, but shows like Buffy and Angel, which is why I said monster of the week rather than mystery of the week.

The Scoobies rarely heard about evil happening somewhere and went to fight it just because. Most of the evil they fought affected them very personally. I mean there's a reason most episodes weren't just about Buffy out on patrol dusting random vamps.

I don't completely understand the distinction here. I can't imagine Buffy or Angel finding out about evil happening anywhere and not going to find it whether or not that evil directly affected them or not. It just so happened that evil kept finding them on their home turf. However, if it being personal somehow is a criteria for you, how does this episode not count? This mission was very personal to Coulson.


sj - Oct 16, 2013 6:52:20 am PDT #3255 of 5827
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Except for the premiere, with Dr. Ron Glass saying "He can never know," which is about as dramatic of an anvil as you can drop.

True, I forgot about that. Also, can we have more Ron Glass now.


Connie Neil - Oct 16, 2013 7:03:07 am PDT #3256 of 5827
brillig

I dislike the LMD potential because I think it involves a level of cruelty to the people who care about Phil. I get that the Avengers aren't involved in this show for movie/TV separation purposes, but story wise there are huge swaths of SHIELD who know "Coulson" is around and working (the crews working on the plane, support staff for the team, etc.). Word will get back to the Avengers. Maybe Fury is OK with casually yelling at "Coulson" for wrecking the plane, but I don't see the Avengers shrugging it off so casually. So either there are massive amounts of handwavium going on or this is going to be addressed. And I don't see ongoing angst about "Our friend is dead but that thing that looks and sounds like him and thinks he's him is wandering around" is what Marvel/ABC is looking for in a relatively lighthearted show.


kat perez - Oct 16, 2013 11:44:59 am PDT #3257 of 5827
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Also, with everybody so certain that there is no such thing as ESP, we're definitely gonna see a real telepath (or something kinda like it) at some point, yes?


§ ita § - Oct 16, 2013 12:26:45 pm PDT #3258 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not until they change the premise of the show, no.


Polter-Cow - Oct 16, 2013 12:29:12 pm PDT #3259 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, I think Marvel has decreed that all powers on the show are science-based. No mutants, hence "registered gifted." Because they don't have the X-Men movie rights.


kat perez - Oct 16, 2013 12:56:13 pm PDT #3260 of 5827
"We have trust issues." Mylar

So this is a world where mutants don't exist? Got it. I guess I just thought that no mutants could be on the show not that they would deny the existence of mutants all together. Is that true of all the non-X-Men Marvel movies as well? Like in The Avengers/Iron Man/Captain America/Thor universe, there are never going to be any mutants or non-science or alien powered beings? I mean, I guess there haven't been but I didn't know there couldn't ever be. Huh. I learn something new every day from Buffistas.