Riley: Oh, yeah. Sorry 'bout last time. Heard I missed out on some fun. Xander: Oh yeah, fun was had. Also frolic, merriment and near-death hijinks.

'Never Leave Me'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Jesse - Oct 15, 2013 3:57:55 pm PDT #3220 of 5827
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

(a) Damn straight, women can't pee into a bottle in a van.

(b) I take back some of the bad things I said about Superman -- for a second, I was thinking, "Who's this guy with the glasses?"


Steph L. - Oct 15, 2013 3:59:18 pm PDT #3221 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism

So, did Amador use her X-ray vision on Coulson? The way she asked Melinda May "What did they DO to him?" (or was it "What HAPPENED to him?") makes me think yes, she literally *saw* something physical, rather than just a change in demeanor.


tommyrot - Oct 15, 2013 4:24:51 pm PDT #3222 of 5827
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I was pretty meh on the episode, although my mood may be partially to blame. Toward the end I started reading about House Republicans while I was watching.


Jessica - Oct 15, 2013 4:51:07 pm PDT #3223 of 5827
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The way she asked Melinda May "What did they DO to him?" (or was it "What HAPPENED to him?") makes me think yes, she literally *saw* something physical, rather than just a change in demeanor.

Oh, good call!

I think the reason this show isn't quite clicking for me is that none of the characters seem to want anything, so the stakes feel very low for them personally (even if they are saving people/the world every week). I've never yet felt that any of these guys are in danger, or worried about losing anything.

Coulson obviously has zombie/robot angst, and Melinda May has a backstory we'll get to eventually, but none of it seems to matter very much to the missions they're on.

I wonder if part of the problem is Marvel not being sure which comics storylines they want to hold back for future movies - I feel like this show should have a much stronger mythology of its own by now. What is this show's Rambaldi device / wormhole / I Want To Believe poster?


Steph L. - Oct 15, 2013 4:58:52 pm PDT #3224 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I feel like this show should have a much stronger mythology of its own by now. What is this show's Rambaldi device / wormhole / I Want To Believe poster?

There's the organization behind almost-exploding not!Gunn in the premiere, who maybe are also behind party-trick eyeball!Amador. But they don't really feel like a big deal, probably because SHIELD isn't talking about them.

(Also, I really would love to see an I Want to Believe poster in Fitz's room.)


Jessica - Oct 15, 2013 5:06:33 pm PDT #3225 of 5827
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But they don't really feel like a big deal

Right, which is why they don't count. There's nothing driving the action forward, really. It's just a bunch of quippy attractive people flying around in a superplane solving crimes. Which isn't to say it's not fun, but the show still hasn't answered the question of why they're doing it at all.


Connie Neil - Oct 15, 2013 5:07:31 pm PDT #3226 of 5827
brillig

I thought the ep was an improvement--people playing to their strengths, very little angst between people, an interesting "monster" of the week. Skye wasn't even that annoying, she was competent in her areas and had weaknesses that weren't Sources of Drama. She and Fitz/Simmons made an interesting grouping. And the peeing in the van was a good touch.

The previews look very intriguing, too. And I bet Skye was looking at Ward through the x-ray glasses.


Connie Neil - Oct 15, 2013 5:10:16 pm PDT #3227 of 5827
brillig

the show still hasn't answered the question of why they're doing it at all.

It's their jobs? And it keeps Skye out of jail--though next week will be interesting.

Is it a question of Why are they SHIELD? Or why are they on that plane? I don't see it as a big deal, more like "Why do cops fight crime?" Or do you prefer cops to have some sort of tragic backstory that drives them on a quest to fight injustice and all that?


Jessica - Oct 15, 2013 5:17:40 pm PDT #3228 of 5827
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

In a narrative, yes, there has to be something driving the characters other than "because it's my job and I have nothing better to do."


Jesse - Oct 15, 2013 5:27:43 pm PDT #3229 of 5827
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Not in a straight procedural, there doesn't.