I found the twins line utterly predictable. NSM for the show, as for the man, even though we knew so little of him.
The amount of stuff from the pilot confused me, because I stopped being able to remember what we'd already been shown.
Can't any one of your damn little Scooby club at least try to remember that I hate you all?
Spike ,'Get It Done'
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§ ita § - Feb 28, 2009 10:42:40 am PST #305 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
victor infante - Feb 28, 2009 10:51:31 am PST #306 of 5827
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I liked last night's a lot better than the other two. I especially liked that moment in the end where it's clear that Echo is started to remember pieces of her many lives, but--more interestingly--is conscious of the fact that she shouldn't let anyone else know that she's remembering. Potential for something interesting there.
Oh, yes. The A plot ... eh. Didn't hate it, didn't care overly much. The further exploration of Echo's sense of self? Yeah, that interested me.
It was also nice to not just see her out having sex with someone.
A month ago, I would have thought this sentence to be impossible.
Vortex - Feb 28, 2009 11:01:48 am PST #307 of 5827
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
something just occurred to me. Is Sierra remembering as well or is she just remembering dollhouse!echo?
Kevin - Feb 28, 2009 11:08:26 am PST #308 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
It's not clear, Vortex.
If anybody is wondering re all the footage from the episode "Echo" - they shot 14 episodes on a 13 episode (and so budget) order. So stuff is reused throughout the series.
erikaj - Feb 28, 2009 11:09:13 am PST #309 of 5827
Always Anti-fascist!
I couldn't tell, Vortex. Maybe a little of both? I thought Eliza had a nice handle on this persona, though. And a decent singing voice.
Vortex - Feb 28, 2009 11:30:13 am PST #310 of 5827
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I enjoyed "Bitch, you can fire me, but don't think you can take me"
Pix - Feb 28, 2009 2:21:59 pm PST #311 of 5827
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie
I think Sierra does remember something, because the whole reason behind the head shake was that Sierra looked like she was about to greet Echo or thank her, which she wouldn't normally do if they'd been wiped completely.
Vortex - Feb 28, 2009 2:24:21 pm PST #312 of 5827
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Also, with the way the wiped actives are so innocent, if Sierra didn't know/remember something she would wonder why Echo didn't want to talk to her.
sumi - Feb 28, 2009 3:59:10 pm PST #313 of 5827
Art Crawl!!!
There was a spec over on TWOP that when Echo walked in on Sierra's initial programming that it imprinted her and their friendship on Sierra. (And on Echo, I guess.) Similar to how the handlers are imprinted on the actives.
That was the most interesting part of the episode. (Also, I had not thought that Victor was an Active. I am simple that way.)
Theodosia - Mar 01, 2009 2:43:38 am PST #314 of 5827
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
No, the Victor thing took me by surprise too. (But then I haven't watched the first episode, or the pilot script.)