Yeah, I could do that, but I'm paralyzed with not caring very much.

Spike ,'Showtime'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2010 8:56:02 am PST #2669 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Bad Guy Leverage team needs a grifter...


Wolfram - Feb 01, 2010 9:09:39 am PST #2670 of 5827
Visilurking

So I'm watching E2 with my wife last night, and as they start the invasion of the Dollhouse I paused it and said, okay someone has to die here. She's like, why. I said, well Joss is unable to make a series finale without killing off some kind of main character. So we started guessing out who was the goner. (Well I did, my wife just wanted me to hit play, but put up with me because she's awesome and does that.)

We ruled out Tony and Priya because a) it would orphan little T, and b) their eventual togetherness was the series biggest in terms of payoff. Killing either one would ruin that.

I first thought it might be Maggie or (memfault landscaper guy), but my wife said it wouldn't mean much as their story hadn't really been told yet, though we knew they were definitely moving towards something.

So I predicted Paul. Because he'd just put it out there for Echo. It seemed a little off the nose, as Echo hadn't reciprocated but we knew she was going there so it was the closest to the Jossian formula.

My wife said, maybe he won't kill anyone and that would be a surprise. It sure would have been. I unpaused, and not 30 seconds later Paul took one in the head. I guess the effect was lost on us, but it still felt right.

Otherwise, I liked most things about this episode except Echo's breakdown. It just seemed over the top.


smonster - Feb 01, 2010 9:20:55 am PST #2671 of 5827
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Hi Wolfram! Good to see your pixels.


aurelia - Feb 01, 2010 9:53:51 am PST #2672 of 5827
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Someone on IO9 suggested Enver in a Pretender remake. That would totally be fun.

That would be fun, but I think an Alias type vehicle would show off more of his talents.

Otherwise, I liked most things about this episode except Echo's breakdown. It just seemed over the top.

I thought it helped show Echo as a real person and played to Eliza's strengths. It got me.


Wolfram - Feb 01, 2010 10:04:20 am PST #2673 of 5827
Visilurking

Hey smonster! Yeah, I'm mostly lurky nowadays, but still stalking y'all dropping by every now and then.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 01, 2010 10:18:06 am PST #2674 of 5827
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The Bad Guy Leverage team needs a grifter...

Oh HELL yeah!!


smonster - Feb 01, 2010 10:19:51 am PST #2675 of 5827
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I thought it helped show Echo as a real person and played to Eliza's strengths. It got me.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they remove the part of Paul where he loved/felt a connection to Echo? So all that had to be rebuilt over the intervening years, through the strife, and I got the sense she was just hanging in there until she could openly reciprocate.

By which I mean to say that I bought it, too.

As someone else said, it took me back to Faith's breakdown in the alley during Five By Five. Eliza does lose her shit well.


erin_obscure - Feb 02, 2010 4:26:22 am PST #2676 of 5827
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

I rewatched E2 last night (as my *&%&(*+ digital converter box turned off while i was taping it so i lost 15 minutes of farm life and exposition) and afterwards dreamt dreams of profound loss and yearning. Echo-wise it's good thing there is no more, because by my reckoning she will certainly waste away in her pod, dreaming and living inside her head (literally) with no care to maintain her physical self.

no idea what language the wastelanders were speaking. it sounded vaguely eastern european to me.

I am currently battling over whether to pay itunes in order to watch E1. I feel like i missed something important.


sumi - Feb 02, 2010 4:37:05 am PST #2677 of 5827
Art Crawl!!!

Other sources tell me that it was most likely Albanian.

Watch E1 - in fact, rent the dvds and watch the unaired pilot too.


Shir - Feb 02, 2010 4:40:47 am PST #2678 of 5827
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

what language the wastelanders were speaking

Given that it's Enver, I thought Albanian.