Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.

Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


quester - Dec 11, 2009 6:53:08 pm PST #2444 of 5827
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Hulu should have it soon.


Laga - Dec 11, 2009 7:45:42 pm PST #2445 of 5827
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

The second episode froze up for an excruciatingly long time here in LA.

I've had a weird coincidenty day. First we were watching "True Blood" and Lafayette had Gilda on tv which D had never seen so after that we watched Gilda. Then just now we're watching "Dollhouse" and Sierra comes back to the dollhouse as Gilda. Kinda freaky.


Calli - Dec 12, 2009 5:04:50 am PST #2446 of 5827
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

We had sound/freezing issues here, too. Very annoying.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 12, 2009 5:11:30 am PST #2447 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Dollhouse has always been plagued by technical glitches for me. I wondered if it was a meta decision on Joss' part.


Juliebird - Dec 12, 2009 5:40:07 am PST #2448 of 5827
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Also, the many fights, big and small, were quite sweet, although my two fave were the one where Echo does the jump-up-and-attack-from-above, and the prison fight from the barred windows. Also, the hysterical image of Alpha flying across the room as a sign of just how pissed she is. So OTT and awesome.


sumi - Dec 12, 2009 8:03:40 am PST #2449 of 5827
Art Crawl!!!

I love how Victor and Sierra are attracted to each other even when they are imprinted.


erin_obscure - Dec 12, 2009 8:10:05 am PST #2450 of 5827
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

After watching "V" and then this, i'm amazed at how well Alan pulls off super creepy.


sumi - Dec 12, 2009 9:42:11 am PST #2451 of 5827
Art Crawl!!!

I love that Kristen Hersh song they used at the end of the 2nd episode. It's much stronger in the original version (sung with Michael Stipe.) Can you imagine if they had had Kristen Hersh to write the Dollhouse theme song? It would still be hypnotic but much more intense and interesting.


DavidS - Dec 12, 2009 10:48:37 am PST #2452 of 5827
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Can you imagine if they had had Kristen Hersh to write the Dollhouse theme song?

Good call. Her work has always had that element of the splintered psyche.

Wow. So I watched the last five episodes and talk about narrative propulsion. It's like they've telescoped several seasons down into this burnoff and it's pretty fucking amazing.

I love the new dandy Alpha. ("I've gone a little Brummell.") I'm sensing a lot more Joker in him than previously. (Where he was more like Natural Born Killers, I guess.) And Alan's performance has been incredible. And all the shifting alliances and Summer as Bennett (which I liked a lot) and Keith Carradine's perfectly pitched corporate evil.

I think this is the show Joss wanted to make. It just makes me so frustrated that they wasted most of the first season on those crap standalone episodes that were rush rewritten.

But this is really thrilling and thought provoking stuff. It's good science fiction.


Polter-Cow - Dec 12, 2009 11:52:47 am PST #2453 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

After watching "V" and then this, i'm amazed at how well Alan pulls off super creepy.

Right? It's like he was always supposed to play villains.

I think this is the show Joss wanted to make. It just makes me so frustrated that they wasted most of the first season on those crap standalone episodes that were rush rewritten.

But this is really thrilling and thought provoking stuff. It's good science fiction.

Oh yeah. I am far more interested in this show now. Hell, "Meet Jane Doe" was the first time I actually found Echo to be an interesting character. I really liked her monologue about realizing that Caroline was kind of a crappy person, and even though she was in her body, she, Echo, was Someone Else. And she felt she was Someone apart from all her imprints.

And oh man, Topher. It's definitely unnerving to see everything leading up to "Epitaph One," and that scene with a broken Topher just becomes more and more terrible. He only figured Rossum's plan out so that he could stop it. I do agree with Adele that he was also completely fascinated and he wanted to see What He Could Do, but it was clear he never meant to start the Imprint Apocalypse. I wonder what sort of "helping people" use Rossum plans to make up. I suppose you could help the mentally ill by imprinting them with sane versions of themselves?

Also, I kind of can't believe they blew up that guy. I feel like it's rare for a show to brutally kill the hostage. The only reason they show us a hostage situation is for the heroes to save the hostage, you know?

If the show went on to a third season, they could have turned it into The Pretender with Echo assuming various roles and helping wayward immigrants.