I'm starting to think Adelle may be doing the secret imprinting. She obviously had some way to put something into Victor's programming that Topher wasn't aware of. And I got the impression that she's the only one who knows about Millie/November's sleeper persona.
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aurelia - Apr 10, 2009 5:23:02 pm PDT #1263 of 5827
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
le nubian - Apr 10, 2009 5:24:16 pm PDT #1264 of 5827
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I agree. I don't think it is possible he was helping Paul. I do now wonder if the doctor is a doll.
BTW, I took one look at Echo's new handler and I said to Beau: maybe it is our tv, but I could SWEAR he is wearing a red shirt.
Steph L. - Apr 10, 2009 5:30:21 pm PDT #1265 of 5827
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
I agree that Dominic wasn't the imprint-altering inside person. That's a whole other person, who hasn't yet been revealed. Dominic was an inside person working for the NSA.
Which I find interesting, because that means that the NSA knows about the Dollhouse and has no real need to shut it down, as long as they have someone on the inside.
This episode impressed me with its ability to repeatedly pull off something I totally didn't see coming, but which worked perfectly (like DeWitt being the one having the repeat engagements with Victor -- and how sad was that??? -- and Dominic being a mole, but not THE mole).
Finally, you shouldn't fence without a damn mask. Jesus.
SailAweigh - Apr 10, 2009 5:33:48 pm PDT #1266 of 5827
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
he's not the one who was sending the secret messages to Paul. There's still someone else.
That's what I had a hard time parsing out. I'm going to blame it on the structure of the show today. It took me a couple of restarts to realize we were doing the non-linear thing like Out of Gas. I couldn't put the Mellie reveal into place with what we found out about Dominic. I jump to so many conclusions with this kind of stuff, I just wasn't willing to take that entire leap, tonight.
Vortex - Apr 10, 2009 5:41:28 pm PDT #1267 of 5827
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
She obviously had some way to put something into Victor's programming that Topher wasn't aware of.
true, but why would she be trying to bring down the Dollhouse?
And I got the impression that she's the only one who knows about Millie/November's sleeper persona.
no, she's not. she told Paul that their sleeper active performed perfectly after Mellie killed rapist!handler.
I felt really bad for Paul when he found out that mellie was an active. I think that he genuinely liked and cared for her.
Juliebird - Apr 10, 2009 5:46:08 pm PDT #1268 of 5827
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
you shouldn't fence without a damn mask. Jesus.
I was looking at their exposed shoulders and sexy arms thinking, "there's arteries there".
I couldn't put the Mellie reveal into place with what we found out about Dominic.
I didn't base my judgment on that, but on what Dom was saying to Adelle. He doesn't want the Dollhouse shut down, but he wants it controlled and restricted. And he pointed out that if it wasn't for him, Ballard would be that much more closer to bringing down the Dollhouse. That doesn't fit with "I command you with this doll to find out the Dollhouses purpose, oh crazy person obsessed with bringing it down".
I really find it fascinating that as much as Dominic has tried to kill Echo and send her to the attic, she is the first person he thinks of when speaking of who has been harmed by the Dollhouse. It's a weird dichotomy of him knowing Caroline has been wronged and killed and hating/taunting the body that houses the doll that is Echo. Between knowing what was done to Caroline was wrong, and having no feelings for Echo. Dominic drew a line, and Echo and her imprints are not people deserving of a jot of sympathy or compassion, and Caroline is to be mourned.
Puts a new light on his drug induced apology about trying to kill her, as well as his trying to kill her in defense of the dollhouse.
Torque - Apr 10, 2009 5:47:59 pm PDT #1269 of 5827
Bad Wolf
Really, i didn't think he cared about her that much. Was just obligated to her because he pulled her into this shit. Now he's kinda stuck.
sj - Apr 10, 2009 5:51:22 pm PDT #1270 of 5827
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Really, i didn't think he cared about her that much. Was just obligated to her because he pulled her into this shit. Now he's kinda stuck.
Regardless of whether or not he was falling in love with her, he trusted her. He thought she was kind, sweet, and REAL. I think all of this is going to make him much more paranoid in the future and probably make him sound even crazier to people.
Torque - Apr 10, 2009 5:51:26 pm PDT #1271 of 5827
Bad Wolf
Also, are we getting cancellation? Felicia Day seemed to think that was the case. On a seperate note... I heart her.
aurelia - Apr 10, 2009 5:55:12 pm PDT #1272 of 5827
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
she told Paul that their sleeper active performed perfectly after Mellie killed rapist!handler.
Do you mean Dominic? I had forgotten that.
true, but why would she be trying to bring down the Dollhouse?
I can't quite articulate my thoughts on this just yet. Too jumbled.