Really hardcore Trekkies may have issues I suppose
I know I do.
You know me! I'm like, "Go school! It's your birthday!" Or something to that effect.
Willow ,'Empty Places'
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Connie Neil - Apr 21, 2009 6:46:39 am PDT #880 of 30000
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tommyrot - Apr 21, 2009 6:52:12 am PDT #881 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
That JJ Abrams guy is the guest editor of the current issue of Wired, so there's some Trek stuff in there. Including this short comic (When Worlds Collide: Spock Confronts the Ultimate Challenge) which is a kind of prequel to the movie. (It ends: "To be continued... in Star Trek!") So I dunno - does that make it spoilery? I say 'no', but....
eta: Kevin (who's seen the movie) says its a bit spoilery.
DavidS - Apr 21, 2009 7:45:42 am PDT #882 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
So with Wall-E in Matilda's movie rotation it's been playing regularly at Chez Zmayhem.
When I first saw the movie the subtext I most noticed was the satire of rampant consumerism represented by Buy 'N Large. But with the repeated viewings I'm seeing that life on the spaceship is really more a satire of a socialist paradise gone awry. They're not buying anything on the spaceship. They're still consumers, but it's not capitalism.
In other words, it's another variation on the Rand-Lite undercurrents you get from Brad Bird's movies (specifically The Incredibles and Ratatouille). On the spaceship all needs are met and everybody is taken care of by a paternalistic figure (Auto/Otto). And it's disastrous. It's another critique asserting that pushing for equality can be a force for a dampening equalization.
The Captain's reassertion of will is really a comic Fountainhead moment, but I think Pixar is slipping Randian libertarian principles into our children's brainpans.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 21, 2009 8:58:13 am PDT #883 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
New from Pixar: Li'l Atlas Shrugged
sumi - Apr 21, 2009 9:21:21 am PDT #884 of 30000
Art Crawl!!!
Kevin - Apr 21, 2009 9:32:07 am PDT #885 of 30000
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
tommy, it's a bit spoilery for the movie.
Hayden - Apr 21, 2009 12:29:43 pm PDT #886 of 30000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
David, while that may be true about the spaceship, the devastastion on Earth in WALL-E is supposed to be the result of overcommercialization, more like national socialism in its simplest form (i.e. the government is entirely subsidized by monopolistic interests) than any sort of Marxist ideology. The Buy N Large facility you can see on Earth seems to be patterned on the enormous Costco in Idiocracy. And would that make WALL-E John Galt in your analogy? 'Cause that's going to lead to problems if Pixar adopts Ayn Rand's "rape is hottt" approach to sexuality.
DavidS - Apr 21, 2009 1:01:31 pm PDT #887 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
'Cause that's going to lead to problems if Pixar adopts Ayn Rand's "rape is hottt" approach to sexuality.
The robot sex seems to be limited to holding hands.
Polter-Cow - Apr 21, 2009 1:04:46 pm PDT #888 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
But didn't WALL-E hold EVE's hand even when she was a robot vegetable and unable to give consent?
DavidS - Apr 21, 2009 1:24:13 pm PDT #889 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
But didn't WALL-E hold EVE's hand even when she was a robot vegetable and unable to give consent?
He tried, but it pinched his fingers.