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Calli - Apr 19, 2010 8:42:02 am PDT #7723 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I saw 37 movies from that list. There are also about 15 or so on it that are on my Netflix queue.

I haven't seen Kick Ass.


Hayden - Apr 19, 2010 9:29:56 am PDT #7724 of 30000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

What is is about Trainspotting that pushes it into the "hate" category from "disklike"?

I really hate the facile nihilism of Trainspotting or, for that matter, Fight Club, especially when that sort of adolescent anti-philosophy is glorified as if it were actually about something. I mean, there's plenty of movies like this, but few are made with such style that they give viewers the feeling that they're movies of substance despite that they have nothing to offer. It's one thing to raise style over substance, but these movies look into the face of the creeping nothingness of their character's lives and suggest, with only the barest grasp of ironic detachment, that this is all there is. To paraphrase a character in one of my favorite movies, say what you will about Triumph Of The Will, but at least it glorified its disgustingly wrongheaded protagonists for a reason.


Tom Scola - Apr 19, 2010 9:34:13 am PDT #7725 of 30000
hwæt

You just described how I feel about Stanley Kubrik, Corwood.


Hayden - Apr 19, 2010 10:06:36 am PDT #7726 of 30000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I can see that, but I don't agree. I put Kubrick with the filmmakers who gaze into the abyss but find some meaning in the abyss gazing back. I mean, I think his movies are predicated on the notion that people are fallible and will almost always fuck things up, but there's a point to all this striving. He's the yang to Altman's humanist yin.


Glamcookie - Apr 19, 2010 10:51:49 am PDT #7727 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I enjoyed Fight Club, but never had any interest in Trainspotting. Looked like nastiness for the sake of nastiness. I tried to watch A Clockwork Orange, but it totally disgusted me and I had turned it off and headed back to the video store with it within about 15-20 minutes (this was in like 89 or so). I realize it's supposed to be disgusting, but it was too much for me. Ick.


§ ita § - Apr 19, 2010 10:54:44 am PDT #7728 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have such a great love for A Clockwork Orange that my lukewarm response to everything else Kubrick has done still doesn't chill me on Kubrick as a whole. I'm not entirely sure why it didn't turn me off, but it was one of those movies that I went to see every time they showed it at University. And that was about once a semester. Which puts it in my top ten most viewed list, now that I own the DVD.

I love what they did to the main character.

Trainspotting I'm kinda meh on. And I did close my eyes for the toilet scene, because who needs that, really?


Jessica - Apr 19, 2010 10:57:46 am PDT #7729 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I love both A Clockwork Orange and Fight Club. Apparently I'm into macho nihlism.


Amy - Apr 19, 2010 11:01:18 am PDT #7730 of 30000
Because books.

I've never seen all of A Clockwork Orange somehow, but I adore Fight Club. It loses a little something on rewatch once you've seen the end, but the performances are great.


DavidS - Apr 19, 2010 11:01:20 am PDT #7731 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Apparently I'm into macho nihlism.

You're butch but you have no ethos. It's sad really.


Tom Scola - Apr 19, 2010 11:06:15 am PDT #7732 of 30000
hwæt

I mean, I certainly appreciate Kubrick's technical ability. He certainly has made some of the best-looking, best photographed films ever. It's just that I keep looking for some sort of deep meaning to his films, and I can't see past the nihilism.