Any time two characters are talking about a third? Really? I beg to disagree with the mighty man on that one. I can think of many narrative moments I've enjoyed one way or another that definitely fell into that category.
I think what my daughter's trying to say is: nyah nyah nyah nyah.
Joyce ,'Same Time, Same Place'
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§ ita § - Mar 24, 2010 9:04:49 am PDT #7376 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Frankenbuddha - Mar 24, 2010 9:19:45 am PDT #7377 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Any time two characters are talking about a third? Really? I beg to disagree with the mighty man on that one. I can think of many narrative moments I've enjoyed one way or another that definitely fell into that category.
I'm guessing a certain level of hyperbole is involved here (From David Mamet? Shocking.) and that he's just saying it's a warning sign. Because I have seen plenty of scenes of that nature that were purely Basil Exposition moments.
I do agree that I have seen enough of those type of scenes that work for various reasons that's it's dangerous as a blanket rule. Not so much with the "As you know" cavaet.
Strega - Mar 24, 2010 9:25:34 am PDT #7378 of 30000
You can't pronounce "Mamet" without "meh."
There are valid points in there. There is also a lot of nonsense. I was mostly amused that David Fucking Mamet is telling people to try to write scenes without dialogue.
Oh, the bit about how it's the director's job to remind the actors to talk fast did make me laugh. Although I think that's more important with Aaron Sorkin's shows.
Sean K - Mar 24, 2010 9:38:43 am PDT #7379 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
No really. If you don't regularly remind actors to pick up the pace, they will savor every line until the glaciers melt.
And come back.
erikaj - Mar 24, 2010 9:40:37 am PDT #7380 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-
Not bad, but I'm fucking ambivalent about fucking Mamet. Although I am very anxious that my scripts not be CROCKS OF SHIT, natch.
javachik - Mar 24, 2010 10:03:55 am PDT #7381 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
I love Mamet mostly, but I did get to tell him face to face that his version of Faustus was a crock of shit.
le nubian - Mar 24, 2010 10:07:06 am PDT #7382 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
man it is like Deadwood in here.
I fucking love it.
Frankenbuddha - Mar 24, 2010 10:32:34 am PDT #7383 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Swidgin'!
juliana - Mar 24, 2010 10:41:26 am PDT #7384 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
No really. If you don't regularly remind actors to pick up the pace, they will savor every line until the glaciers melt.
HAHAHAHA! Oh, so fucking true.
Juliebird - Mar 24, 2010 1:12:37 pm PDT #7385 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Cocksuckers.