I don't give a good gorram about relevant, Wash. Or objective. And I ain't so afraid of losing something that I ain't gonna try to have it. You and I would make one beautiful baby. And I want to meet that child one day. Period.

Zoe ,'Heart Of Gold'


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Jesse - Feb 13, 2010 5:15:56 pm PST #6800 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

For the most part, no one that wasn't white got a romantic storyline on-camera. There were many examples of "foreign" types providing a funny one-liner or reaction shot or similar, and one from a girl in a wheelchair. Most of these people weren't actually characters in the movie, just props. There just happened to be a (black) sign-language interpreter at hastily-thrown press conference -- see how inclusive they are?? And this one may be more spoilery, but when Jamie Foxx was making a generally pro-gay statement on camera (he's a reporter), he had to end it with a homophobic "joke."


§ ita § - Feb 13, 2010 5:21:15 pm PST #6801 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oy. can you tell me about the George Lopez plotlet? He seemed like an interesting inclusion.


Jesse - Feb 13, 2010 5:23:56 pm PST #6802 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Not much of a plotlet. He works for Ashton Kutcher, and is basically his sounding board. As it turns out, he has a wife and children he loves, but they are only shown, not heard.


Jesse - Feb 13, 2010 5:29:32 pm PST #6803 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OK, I guess Hector Elizondo and Jessica Alba could have been playing Latino/a characters, but they weren't ethnic like Lopez's.


§ ita § - Feb 13, 2010 5:53:16 pm PST #6804 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thank you for taking the hit and seeing the movie, Jesse. I'm glad I didn't.


Jesse - Feb 13, 2010 6:04:07 pm PST #6805 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I would not recommend paying for it.


Burrell - Feb 13, 2010 6:12:13 pm PST #6806 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

The earlier version is much better. The plot actually makes sense and it comes down to Charlie making a choice which defines him. In the Burton Wonka we get a needless, over-explainy, here's-10-minutes-of-my-last-therapy-session, backstory. Willy Wonka does not need a conventional finds-a-family plot resolution. He's much more intriguing as the slightly sinister figure portrayed by Gene Wilder.

I gotta go with Hec here. Much as I like Depp's Willy Wonka clapping in glee after the animatronics catch on fire, the ending of the movie was terrible. Not Planet of the Apes terrible, but pretty terrible none the less.


Amy - Feb 13, 2010 6:12:39 pm PST #6807 of 30000
Because books.

The reviewer at Jezebel hated it, too, Jesse. Sorry you had to sit through it!


Jesse - Feb 13, 2010 6:17:26 pm PST #6808 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I...didn't actually hate watching it. Parts were cute, while I was seeing the terribleness with my thinking-brain.


Scrappy - Feb 13, 2010 8:40:06 pm PST #6809 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I just saw "Terribly Happy" which is Danish Coen brothers-type film. That makes it sound like an homage or a rip-off, but it's very, very good, actually.Dark and surprising in all the right ways and great atmospheric use of the setting.