Any sequel is using existing characters--would they all fall under an adapted rubric?
All sequels are automatically considered as adapted.
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megan walker - Feb 02, 2010 8:51:12 am PST #6613 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
megan walker - Feb 02, 2010 8:52:59 am PST #6614 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
And all of the dialogue in The Hurt Locker was waaaay on the nose.
I'm confused. I use "on the nose" to mean accurate, but that doesn't seem to be what you're saying here.
Polter-Cow - Feb 02, 2010 8:58:37 am PST #6615 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I think he means that it was very deliberate and obvious and anvilicious, like "Hey, you're angry! You're yelling and screaming because you're angry!" (I haven't seen it yet, and I assume the dialogue is better than that.)
megan walker - Feb 02, 2010 9:04:47 am PST #6616 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
So, basically, telling instead of showing.
Polter-Cow - Feb 02, 2010 9:07:17 am PST #6617 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
A DIVERSION!
Hayden - Feb 02, 2010 9:32:40 am PST #6618 of 30000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
Indeed that's what I mean. The Hurt Locker told everything that it showed.
As opposed to Avatar?
Oh heck no, but you have to admit that's a pretty low bar. I should say that I haven't seen Avatar, but in my defense, I have seen Dances With Wolves.
Jessica - Feb 02, 2010 9:39:58 am PST #6619 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
As opposed to Avatar?
Avatar isn't up for a screenplay award, though. The BP nom there is strictly on a Cinema! As! Spectacle! level, which I think is a valid lens through which to judge a film.
§ ita § - Feb 02, 2010 9:46:46 am PST #6620 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
a Cinema! As! Spectacle! level, which I think is a valid lens through which to judge a film.
Isn't that what Cinematography is for? Visual Effects to a lesser degree?
Jessica - Feb 02, 2010 9:59:21 am PST #6621 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
No, I think there's more to it than that. It's a combination of factors that all have to fall into place, and I think old-fashioned escapist epics have their place and can be recognized (and rewarded) for what they are. It's rare that the best picture also has the best individual elements in every category, even if that's how the awards are handed out - it's about how those elements add up to the total experience.
(I actually get pretty cranky when Cinematography = Whatever Was Shot In IMAX and Editing = Whatever Had The Most Shots. Each of those is also an art with many varied ways of being "the best" - when spectacle is all that's rewarded, the categories become meaningless.)
(Yeah, I'm still a little bitter about Gosford Park not winning more technical categories.)
Jon B. - Feb 02, 2010 12:01:59 pm PST #6622 of 30000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I actually get pretty cranky when Cinematography = Whatever Was Shot In IMAX and Editing = Whatever Had The Most Shots.
Or Make-up = lots of crazy monsters and aliens.