I loved that movie, Suzi.
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erikaj - Jan 25, 2010 4:43:27 am PST #6311 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-
SuziQ - Jan 25, 2010 4:51:09 am PST #6312 of 30000
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K-Bug suggested it. I loved the annimation and expressiveness. Plus seeing the revolution and war from a different perspective was cool. We would pause the movie and talk about what the American perception of different events were and then what our family knew from straddling the American-Iranian line.
§ ita § - Jan 25, 2010 5:12:17 am PST #6313 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
P-C--happy ending, or no? The person I saw it with swore up and down it was happy, but really?
I have rewatched the hammer scene a number of times, but it will be a while before I can watch enough that contributes to the impact of the ending again.
Polter-Cow - Jan 25, 2010 6:15:05 am PST #6314 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
ita, it has a happy ending if you squint really hard. I can see why your friend might say that, but you need an incredibly superficial read to justify it.
I think one of the most fucked-up things about the movie is that in those final scenes, I actually started to sympathize with Woo-jin and, for a second, consider him the real protagonist of the movie. It completely screwed with my head.
I don't know how they're going to do an American remake. I'm sure it will be watered down and involve a government conspiracy.
§ ita § - Jan 25, 2010 6:17:53 am PST #6315 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
you need an incredibly superficial read to justify it
Or one not tightly moored in moral values. Whichever.
The movie does jerk you around wrt points of view, but nobody gets off shiny clean.
Polter-Cow - Jan 25, 2010 6:24:17 am PST #6316 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Or one not tightly moored in moral values. Whichever.
Yeah, that too.
The movie does jerk you around wrt points of view, but nobody gets off shiny clean.
For sure. I was sleepy in the last half and I think I may have missed some scenes. Do we get a flashback to why Dae-su starting spreading the rumor in the first place?
You know, now that I think about it, this movie reminds me of Cache with the "I'm going to have vengeance on you now for something you did YEARS AND YEARS AGO but not tell you why," except it actually has a plot.
msbelle - Jan 25, 2010 6:30:03 am PST #6317 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Everytime Oldboy is discussed I have to go look up parts of the plot. I swear my mind just blocks it after a while. Totally disturb-o-rama and in no way a happy ending. Still really good.
§ ita § - Jan 25, 2010 6:34:41 am PST #6318 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I told the guy to imagine that he had a daughter and then to look me in the face and tell me it was a happy ending. He couldn't, but he said I was cheating. Uhuh.
P-C, it's been too long for me to be able to answer that question for you. And although the movie's on my Netflix instant watch queue, not happening for a while.
Msbelle, I remembered my astonishment that you'd rated the movie so highly on Netflix. But I gotta let you have layers.
msbelle - Jan 25, 2010 6:37:02 am PST #6319 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
do you remember that I watched the movie on a plane with my brother? so unsettling.
Polter-Cow - Jan 25, 2010 6:37:52 am PST #6320 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
P-C, it's been too long for me to be able to answer that question for you.
No problem, ita. I didn't delete it from my DVR yet. I kind of do want to go and rewatch the sleepy parts so I can at least have seen the whole movie for realsies once before I don't rewatch it for realsies. I like the visual style.
do you remember that I watched the movie on a plane with my brother? so unsettling.
They showed it on a plane?? Oh, you mean on a laptop or portable DVD player.