Fred: The size and depth of the wound indicate a female vampire. Harmony: Or gay! Fred: Um…it doesn't really work like that.

'Harm's Way'


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le nubian - Mar 15, 2009 11:24:21 am PDT #469 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Watchmen had a 67% drop - this weekend it brought in $18 mill.


DebetEsse - Mar 15, 2009 11:27:33 am PDT #470 of 30000
Woe to the fucking wicked.

wow.

eta: I was thinking, I would love to see them release a "cut your own" kit. It would probably have to be a hard-drive with dailies and pre-effects stuff, and soundtrack and whatever, but it would be really cool.

(and I think it could be cut to work a lot better)


Laga - Mar 15, 2009 11:28:05 am PDT #471 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Beaten by a 70's kids sf remake starring Dwayne "formerly The Rock" Johnston.


billytea - Mar 15, 2009 11:43:19 am PDT #472 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Because of the mess they left behind (from the demolished house), the production company was barred permanently from ever filming in that part of Australia again.

Hee. The scene I saw them shooting was where they're in a horse-drawn carriage.


Gris - Mar 16, 2009 3:34:36 am PDT #473 of 30000
Hey. New board.

My Watchmen thoughts:

Overall, I was pretty satisfied. It wasn't wonderful, but it brought a lot of the things I liked about the book to the screen.

I think I figured out what didn't work, though (or, actually, Improbable Girl said it, and I agree). Snyder (and others, I'm sure) thought that Watchmen is a satire, almost a parody of superhero comics. What it actually is, though, is commentary on them. It's rarely meant to be funny, but that's what was sometimes achieved in the film. I think that if Snyder was a better director the movie would have been funnier - not better.

The obvious example is the Dan/Laurie sex scene in Archie which, if viewed as intentionally comedic, is actually pretty great. I laughed a lot and I'm pretty sure that I was MEANT to. It's so ridiculous that it becomes good parody. There were other moments, too, that I thought were aiming for more Incredibles and less Watchmen-the-comic, like using The Ride of the Valkyries with Dr. Manhattan attacking the Viet Cong.

Viewed in that light, the movie kind of almost works. Unfortunately, Snyder failed to correctly balance the parody with the darkness, which is extreme.

Oh, and somebody earlier mentioned the annoying fact that all of the characters had crazy-awesome ninja skills. That totally sucked. I had zero interest in any of the action scenes, but even if I had, they would've been bad. I thought we were done with Matrix-like slow-mo ridiculousness?

Overall, it wasn't as good as i might have hoped, but was better than I was afraid of.


Aims - Mar 16, 2009 3:50:16 am PDT #474 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

In talking and sussing Watchmen with Joe this weekend, I think I finally put my finger on what bothered me about it.

It wasn't accessible. I am not a comic book fan, I don't read them (Save for Impulse long back when he was still around and even tha was spotty), it's not a medium that I enjoy, regardless of the storyline. But I LOVE LOVE LOVE comic book movies. I thought the fir X-Men was the most amazing movie I had ever seen. Of course, after that came Spiderman, Batman Begins, Dark Knight, etc. And I loved them all. And I loved them all because they were accessible to me, even not being a fan of the comics. The stories and origins and plots were written and presented in such a way that even though I was ignorant of the source material, I didn't feel that way. Watchmen left me feeling not only STILL ignorant of the source material, but irritated I had wasted all of this time. Joe commented that the reason the others were able to be a bit more accessible is that there are literally decades of storylines and characters to explore with the serial comics, whereas with Watchmen, there's just what there is and there ain't no more. And I can see that to a certain extent, but V for Vendetta remains one of my most favorite comic book movies, and it only had what it had. And it was Alan Moore, so it can be done. But I cared about V, I cared about Evie. In Watchmen, Rorshach and The Comedian were the only two I cared about. And, well, we all know how that turned out.

I get now what Jessica meant when she said Watchmen would be hard to follow for those who haven't the comics.


Juliebird - Mar 16, 2009 4:38:48 am PDT #475 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I definitely cared about Rorschach lots more in the movie, but for all of my JDM love, I liked the Comedian in the graphic novel more (eventually), perhaps because we saw more of Sally Jupiter's affection for him than we do in the movie.

I see that there's a Watchmen cartoon on one of my pay-per-view channels? Anyone seen it?


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 16, 2009 5:34:35 am PDT #476 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Watchmen Babies in V for Vacation!


Jessica - Mar 16, 2009 5:38:27 am PDT #477 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Is it the Tales of the Black Freighter short?


tommyrot - Mar 16, 2009 5:40:58 am PDT #478 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Black Freighter Babies in Vacation From Hell!