y'all are funneh.
Um, well, we listened to aggressively cheerful music sung by people chosen for their ability to dance. Then we ate cookie dough, and talked about boys.
Giles ,'Get It Done'
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tiggy - Mar 12, 2009 5:27:42 pm PDT #428 of 30000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
amych - Mar 12, 2009 5:33:20 pm PDT #429 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Dude, not only dead lesbians but also fall in love with your rapist . If only we had a literal woman in a refrigerator, we'd have the comics sexism hat-trick .
amych - Mar 12, 2009 5:34:32 pm PDT #430 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
On the plus side, movie!Dan Dreiberg was OMFGHAWT. Which is completely out of character and I DON'T CARE.
Ailleann - Mar 12, 2009 5:44:32 pm PDT #431 of 30000
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
Dude, not only
I'm starting to think Alan Moore has some Issues.
Laga - Mar 12, 2009 5:58:36 pm PDT #432 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
We didn't have Rorschach jumping out of the refrigerator. Which made me sad.
Kate P. - Mar 12, 2009 6:00:45 pm PDT #433 of 30000
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
Agreeing with many of the comments here on Watchmen, which was a big ol' "meh" for me. I'll just add that I thought the soundtrack was one of the most jarring elements of the movie, and really didn't add to the story or the atmosphere of the film (aside from the Muzaked "Everybody Wants to Rule the World," which I wish I'd noticed during my viewing but will happily believe is there).
I mean, all the song choices seemed more or less reasonable for the time period, in that they were songs that would have been around at the time -- there were still plenty of people listening to Bob Dylan in the mid-80s, and I'm willing to handwave that the Watchmen are so caught up in reliving/recapturing their past glories that they've hung onto the music of their past as well. (And, as Laga points out, "All Along the Watchtower" is lifted directly from the novel.) But most of the songs were just, ugh, so boring and uninspired! "Sounds of Silence"?? Really? And we've all noted the hilarity of the "Hallelujah" scene. I think the movie would have been far better served by a much more obscure, truly period-appropriate, and apocalyptic soundtrack (what's that band whose upcoming show is advertised throughout the novel? Pale Horse? Something like that would have been awesome).
As far as things from the novel that I missed, I was surprised that Snyder left out what always seemed to me like a very telling moment about the Minutemen. When Hooded Justice catches the Comedian in the act of trying to rape Sally Jupiter, he beats him up good, and then turns to Sally and says something like "Get your clothes on, slut" (paraphrasing). It's a chilling moment and one that reinforces the idea that these costumed heroes are all pretty psychotic and fucked up in one way or another. Sure, that concept came through just fine in the movie anyway, but it still surprised me that that one line was left out.
Laga - Mar 12, 2009 6:10:59 pm PDT #434 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
They also took out Sally saying she was going to change and her scratching up The Comedian's face when she says, "EN OH!"
Volans - Mar 12, 2009 6:31:08 pm PDT #435 of 30000
move out and draw fire
Wasn't the "Hallelujah" scene actually Billie Holiday in the book?
Which I could go get, except I'm lazy.
I did just play the demo game on Xbox, first as Rorschach (who apparently farts as his special combat power - the DH rolled his eyes and said "I cast Stinking Cloud"), and then as Nite Owl. Mal, behind me, said "It's Batman! Mom, let's watch Batman beat up bad guys!" Good art, when a four-year-old gets it.
Otherwise, I really hope the movie is better than the game. I go see it Monday.
Jessica - Mar 13, 2009 3:42:24 am PDT #436 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
I'm a broken record at this point, but I do feel like at least Moore had the good sense to hang giant neon lanterns on his Comics Sexism Bingo card entries, where Snyder just kind of...went with it. Neither of them gets a free pass to Successful Trope Subversionland, but...eh. I'm tired.
Raq, I don't have the book handy but Google says Billie Holiday is right.
Miracleman - Mar 13, 2009 4:19:10 am PDT #437 of 30000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
The song was Billie Holiday "You're My Thrill", but it was playing during the tenement fire rescue. There was no specific mention of music playing during the Owlship Bonk.
Kate P., the line you're thinking of is "For God's sake, cover yourself up." To me it wasn't so much "...slut" but sort of a '40s era implicit blaming of rape on the victim without the harsh "YOU are a WHORE". More institutionalized than HJ's opinion. I'm probably not being very clear.
As to the Dead Lesbian Cliche I see it, but I also think that Moore was again commenting on the inherent close-mindedness of the times. In the comic there is explicit statement that Hooded Justice and Captain Metropolis are gay, but keeping it under wraps. If Silhouette hadn't been found out, she would still have been in the Minutemen and may still be alive. Conversely, if HJ and CM had been exposed, they would have been out of the Minutemen.
And as for the "fall in love with your rapist"...yeah, I got nothing.