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erikaj - Aug 21, 2009 9:22:04 pm PDT #3817 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!
Strega - Aug 21, 2009 9:31:45 pm PDT #3818 of 30000
Excalibur is considered a classic? I mean... as camp, I could see it. But really?
I should say: I'm fully prepared to believe that there are people somewhere who think it's perfect as is. I also believe that there are also people who think Twilight is perfect as is. But... in general? It's been a while since I sat through it, but I didn't think it was highly regarded.
§ ita § - Aug 22, 2009 4:06:33 am PDT #3819 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't think classics and perfect are the same--I think Princess Bride is a classic, and it's hardly perfect.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 22, 2009 4:46:35 am PDT #3820 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Excalibur is frequently ludicrous, but it's got a visionary craziness that stamps it 100% the work of John Boorman (for similar cases, see also Zardoz and Exorcist II - visually lavish but WTF and "you've GOT to be kidding me" on so much more). Whereas, for example, great as it is, I think Deliverance could have been made by someone else (doing the book was pretty much going to produce the results you saw on the screen). Boorman certainly brought a lot to the party (so to speak), but that movie is also very much James Dickey.
I should also say, I'd rather see the work of a nutball visionary than a competent journeyman any day, much as I appreciate the skill that a journeyman director brings to the job.
Amy - Aug 22, 2009 5:54:50 am PDT #3821 of 30000
Because books.
Deadwood fans: We just watched the last two episodes last night. Did they know the show hadn't been renewed when they were shooting? Was that ever mentioned? I'm feeling like that wasn't what I expected for a series finale, and yet it works anyway, given the sort of iconic last shots of most of the characters.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 22, 2009 6:32:31 am PDT #3822 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Deadwood fans: We just watched the last two episodes last night. Did they know the show hadn't been renewed when they were shooting? Was that ever mentioned? I'm feeling like that wasn't what I expected for a series finale, and yet it works anyway, given the sort of iconic last shots of most of the characters.
Originally there was going to be a fourth season, which was reduced down to a TV movie (or movies), which HBO ultimately never came through on, so they were given hope they'd do more, but I suspect they also knew it might never come to pass.
Glamcookie - Aug 22, 2009 7:19:50 am PDT #3823 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
Damn that stupid John from Cincinnati. Want more Deadwood!
Amy - Aug 22, 2009 8:22:02 am PDT #3824 of 30000
Because books.
Oh, exactly, Glam. I haven't fallen that hard for a show in a long, long time. Every characterization and portrayal was so dead on, and there were just so many characters I wanted to see more of. Not to mention the sheer poetry of the dialogue.
::crawls away to grieve::
Laga - Aug 22, 2009 8:28:43 am PDT #3825 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
I lurved Excalibur when I was 15. Two friends and I watched it so often I still know the spell to bring the dragon's breath. When I saw it on sale for $11 recently I snapped it up and ran home to watch it. What a rude awakening that was. See also: The Prince of Pennsylvania.
Strega - Aug 22, 2009 9:42:02 am PDT #3826 of 30000
I don't think classics and perfect are the same
Sorry, that was horribly unclear of me. I probably should have put the last sentence first. I didn't mean classic = perfect, because then almost nothing would qualify.
From googling around today, apparently a lot of people do think it's great, so maybe I'm wrong about that.