Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


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Steph L. - Mar 10, 2009 4:12:14 am PDT #374 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Jess, I know that The Boy totally got #1. I'll have to ask him about #2. I wish Snyder had had the chance to play up the loony fringe-ness of The New Frontiersman. (And also, in the book -- I can't remember -- didn't Rorschach view The New Frontiersman as the only paper that told the truth? Which is why he delivered his journal there?) Again, I would have liked to see that just a little bit in the movie.


Miracleman - Mar 10, 2009 4:19:12 am PDT #375 of 30000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I don't know that Rorschach viewed the New Frontiersman as the ONLY paper to tell the truth, but he certainly was a devoted reader.


tommyrot - Mar 10, 2009 4:20:06 am PDT #376 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

And also, in the book -- I can't remember -- didn't

Yes.


tommyrot - Mar 10, 2009 4:21:49 am PDT #377 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I thought he said something about it was the only paper that he trusted to tell the truth? eta: or to get the message out?

Damn, now I wanna see exactly what the book says....


Miracleman - Mar 10, 2009 4:24:00 am PDT #378 of 30000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Got it right here.

All I can find is Rorschach's final entry does say "This last entry. Will shortly mail to only people can trust."

But I think that's about it.


tommyrot - Mar 10, 2009 4:25:00 am PDT #379 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh yeah, that's the line I was thinking about.


Jessica - Mar 10, 2009 4:27:15 am PDT #380 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I ask because my co-worker's friends interpreted the last scene as saying that the peace wouldn't last because Rorschach's journal would be published and everyone would know the truth about what happened. They didn't get that The New Frontiersman in this universe commands about as much respect as The Weekly World News does in ours. So yeah, the truth gets out, but everyone dismisses it as the ravings of a deranged conspiracy nut.


tommyrot - Mar 10, 2009 4:28:01 am PDT #381 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

But as for #1, I thought there were at least several references to it.


Jessica - Mar 10, 2009 4:29:47 am PDT #382 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I only remember it mentioned in passing, and I think it would easy to blink and miss that costumed heroes were outlawed.


tommyrot - Mar 10, 2009 4:32:38 am PDT #383 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I ask because my co-worker's friends interpreted the last scene as

I always (in the book and the movie) interpreted the last scene to mean that we just don't know what will happen.

Also, in the book when Ozzy asks Dr. Manhattan, "In the end, I did the right thing, right?" and Manhattan says, "Nothing ever ends," I took that as implying the same thing. Like the book could have ended with the cheesy tagline, "The end... or is it???"