But if the world doesn't end, I'm gonna need a note.

Cordelia ,'Potential'


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Ailleann - Mar 09, 2009 3:39:20 pm PDT #352 of 30000
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

::sits with Juliebird::


Juliebird - Mar 09, 2009 3:41:34 pm PDT #353 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

so Dominic Mongahan and Billy Boyd can jump all over Sean Astin when Astin starts getting preachy are wonderful.

I wished someone had done that to Gimli. Pretentious bore.

Anything with Viggo I of course found absolutely fascinating and helped to raise my loathing of the movies to mild dislike.

ION, saw a trailer for Wolverine: Origins and my gods that looks awful! I hope the CGI wasn't finished, but I think they had every single crazy James Bond/XXX over-the-top stunt they could squeeze in, with lots of silly posing and requisite (and multiple) dying woman flopping deadly in Logan's arms.

I'm so there.


Fay - Mar 09, 2009 3:46:34 pm PDT #354 of 30000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

The commentary on Fellowship of the Ring, with all the hobbits together so Dominic Mongahan and Billy Boyd can jump all over Sean Astin when Astin starts getting preachy are wonderful.

God, yes. Fellowship's much more fun - with the others, the contrast between the Dom'n'Billeh bits and the Sean'n'Lijah bits is stark as you like.

The FotR DVD is why I bought a DVD player.


le nubian - Mar 09, 2009 3:49:15 pm PDT #355 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Watchmen question: Okay, was it supposed to be a surprise that the Comedian was Laurie's dad?

There was a picture of her on his nightstand. It was VERY noticeable. I couldn't believe this was a big reveal. I didn't get it in the context of the movie.


Connie Neil - Mar 09, 2009 3:53:44 pm PDT #356 of 30000
brillig

The FotR DVD is why I bought a DVD player.

I sometimes watch it just for that commentary and the Making Of feature with Elijah wandering around being cute.


Steph L. - Mar 09, 2009 3:56:57 pm PDT #357 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

le nubian, I had read it, and The Boy had not, so after we saw it, I asked him if it was a big reveal. He said that he hadn't really paid close attention to all the little details that seem obvious in retrospect, but he also said that, when the actual reveal was, uh, revealed, he wasn't surprised at it, either.

Relatedly, I can't remember if anyone has posted this yet (or if I had, for that matter): Mad Magazine's parody of Watchmen.


Juliebird - Mar 09, 2009 3:58:05 pm PDT #358 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

le nub, yes, and that's exactly what I was talking about upthread about the narrative structure being out of order and failing.


le nubian - Mar 09, 2009 4:01:53 pm PDT #359 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

why did they put the picture of Laurie on the Comedian's nightstand? Just leaving that out or having her picture out of focus, or having Rorschach pick up the picture and set it down again without revealing the picture's image, would have at least put some mystery in all of it.

BTW - for individuals who read the book? Comedian tried to rape Laurie's mom, right? Then X years later, she willingly slept with the asshole? Why?


Miracleman - Mar 09, 2009 4:21:02 pm PDT #360 of 30000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

le nub:

The Comedian being Laurie's father is a *BIG* reveal in the comic that they totally punked in the movie. Having her picture there was one major fuckup...way to spoil it, Snyder.

It's really well done in the graphic novel. There are tiny tiny pieces sprinkled throughout that don't seem to point to anything in particular and don't even attract notice until Laurie pieces them together on Mars (without, might I add, Dr. Manhattan's horseshit "See as I see" crap which is not in the novel).

As to your second question:

Sally answers the question like this: "...shouted at him, he looked *surprised*, couldn't imagine why I'd bear a grudge. See, it's different for him, and I just couldn't sustain it, the anger..."

"First off, he was *there*, right? Plus, he was *gentle*. You know what gentleness *means* in a guy like that? Even a glimmer of it?"

Later, to Laurie:

"Oh, Laurel, I'm so sorry. Wh-what must you think? It...it was just an afternoon, in summer. He stopped by...

"I tried to be angry, but...I mean, I never wanted you to know. I should have told you, but...I don't know, I just felt ashamed, I felt stupid, and..."

So, to me it was a bad decision, one of those bad relationship moves that people make and they feel fucking stupid about afterward, but it happened and there you go. Sally Jupiter was never shown to be the most together person as it was. Her reasoning for dressing up and fighting crime, her apparently loveless marriage...I don't know, it rang true to me in that way that people doing fucked up things that don't make sense sometimes does.


billytea - Mar 09, 2009 4:33:33 pm PDT #361 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

The commentary on "Strictly Ballroom" is really good, but Baz thinks far too highly of himself and wears a listener out with all of his talking.

Wallybee and I have just started watching through the Red Curtain trilogy. (I've seen them before, Wallybee hasn't.) Will have to check the commentary.