You like ships. You don't seem to be looking at the destinations. What you care about is the ships, and mine's the nicest.

Kaylee ,'Serenity'


Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 05, 2009 4:17:15 am PDT #3313 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Huh, there are only 16 movies on that list I haven't seen.

If Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind made the list I think The Manchurian Candidate belongs there too.

Totally agree with this statement. Hell, if Eternal Sunshine belongs there, so does Being John Malkovich.


Strega - Aug 05, 2009 5:49:02 am PDT #3314 of 30000

If Star Wars belongs there, so does Plan 9 From Outer Space.


le nubian - Aug 05, 2009 6:14:24 am PDT #3315 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Why is "The Stepford Wives" there? For some reason, I don't feel like that film fits.


tommyrot - Aug 05, 2009 6:18:46 am PDT #3316 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I haven't seen it, but weren't they robots or clones or something that required tech to create?

going back a bit:

Hell, if Eternal Sunshine belongs there, so does Being John Malkovich.

Because BJM involved magic and ES involved science?


le nubian - Aug 05, 2009 6:24:23 am PDT #3317 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

okay, help me out here:

just the existence of a robot does not make a scifi film. Or does it? I think I'm arguing myself into a corner, because ET is on the list, and despite the fact the title character is an alien, I'm not sure I would put that on my list of top scifi movies either.


le nubian - Aug 05, 2009 6:26:02 am PDT #3318 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

...where is "Brother From Another Planet?"


tommyrot - Aug 05, 2009 6:27:16 am PDT #3319 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

just the existence of a robot does not make a scifi film. Or does it?

My tentative conclusion is 'yes.' I can't think of a movie with a robot that doesn't seem like scifi to me.

Of course, Buffy is a counter-example to me (despite the occasional robot, Buffy does not seem like scifi to me) but I can't think of a movie where that's true.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 05, 2009 6:30:52 am PDT #3320 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Because BJM involved magic and ES involved science?

I thought the portal was an existing phenomena that Orson Bean's character had discovered and cultivated? It's been a while since I've seen it, but I do remember lots of anatomical charts.


tommyrot - Aug 05, 2009 6:34:18 am PDT #3321 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I thought the portal was an existing phenomena that Orson Bean's character had discovered and cultivated?

Yeah, well... I suppose.

It's been a while since I've seen it, but I do remember lots of anatomical charts.

Well, it started off seeming like magic to me, and all the charts and stuff made it somewhat science-y, but... for some reason the portal thing still seems more magic than science to me. YPMV.


beekaytee - Aug 05, 2009 7:30:26 am PDT #3322 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

Ah, the elusive definition of what actually constitutes 'science fiction'.

While I completely see how it fits into the category, I still don't see Firefly/Serenity as scifi. "Dear, you live on a space ship." "So" That's pretty much my view. To say that the spaceship they lived on, in that time, under those circumstances, is somehow different than the house I live is, is a distinction lost on me. But, I digress.

I've seen 88 of the 100. There are two that I will actively seek out, Moon and Primer, but the other 10 do not fall into my interest categories. I feel like I have to plead for absolution from Hec, but I've never been a huge fan of French cinema or even anime. So those aren't a big draw to me.

While I totally agree with the arguments about ranking mentioned above, I'm glad I didn't read them before reading the list. For some reason, I didn't look at it as an evaluative placement, but just as a list. Something has to come before something else, otherwise, everything would happen at once!

I'll have to go back and read more closely to see what the authors have to say about quality.

To recap: ANYTHING is better than Dune. Except for the two tv series, which I quite like.

::That sound you hear is my scifi cred draining away::