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Typo Boy - Jul 29, 2009 10:24:14 am PDT #3214 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

70 pounds in ten months = 7 pounds a month = 1.6+ pounds per week. Which is not a dangerously fast speed at which to lose weight. Anything up to 2 pounds a week over the long term is fine. (With much larger losses in the first two months or so fine if you are lucky enough for that to happen, and occassional infrequent higher losses after than fine if not too frequent.)


Steph L. - Jul 29, 2009 10:53:39 am PDT #3215 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I have to point out that gastric bypasses, even on extremely heavy people are still quite dangerous and not necessarily better than being fat.

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beekaytee - Jul 29, 2009 10:58:50 am PDT #3216 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

I'm hesitant to foment a conversation about the benefits or drawbacks of gbs in Movies, but I can say I've seen some pretty bad results in one of my clients. As much or more misery than the original issues.

Sometimes it's great, from what I understand, but in this case, not so much. Then, of course, there is the fellow from the Biggest Loser last season who gained hundreds of pounds back despite TWO surgeries.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 29, 2009 11:46:12 am PDT #3217 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It seems to me like there would be some concern that the bypass continues reducing the amount of nutrients you get even after you've burned up most of the excess fat in your body. Like, at some point aren't you going to have to eat hundreds or thousands of extra calories daily to avoid malnutrition?


Steph L. - Jul 29, 2009 11:48:20 am PDT #3218 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Like, at some point aren't you going to have to eat hundreds or thousands of extra calories daily to avoid malnutrition?

That is a big problem that's coming to light now that (1) more and more people are undergoing weight-loss surgery, and (2) there's more long-term data to study now that WLS isn't new (i.e., a lot of people are 5+ years post-op).


Typo Boy - Jul 29, 2009 1:45:01 pm PDT #3219 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I'm just wondering at GBS if the goal is 1.6 pounds a week. Cause that really there are many safe ways to get the weight loss. OK, hard to stick to and I have not managed over the long term, but for the cost of that surgery....

But yeah, as far as I know GBS is more dangerous than being overweight.


Sean K - Jul 29, 2009 2:07:03 pm PDT #3220 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I don't know if the lap band has been around long enough to generate good stats, but that seems just as freaky to me.... Inserting a whole device with moving parts around your stomach. That sounds like a grizzly death from standing too close to a microwave waiting to happen.


Scrappy - Jul 29, 2009 3:16:29 pm PDT #3221 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I am not a fan of unnecessary surgery, but I will say my cousin who had GBS had reached a point where he literally could not walk up or down stairs without getting out of breath and stressing his heart in really dangerous ways--and he was only 35. Since his surgery 6 years ago, he has started working again and fishing and riding a bike, etc, so for him it was a true lifesaver. He is developmentally challenged, so eating "right" was not really possible for him, but he responded well to the re-education about portions, etc. the surgery kinda made him learn.

On the other hand, a lovely man I work with lost 100 lbs through eating right and exercising for the same health reasons, so....


Steph L. - Jul 29, 2009 3:31:06 pm PDT #3222 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

My biggest bugaboo about WLS is that it seems to be promoted so, SO cavalierly, making it seem like the easy way out for people who just don't want to diet/exercise, without explaining what the potentially dangerous side effects can be.

There are good reasons for some patients to have the surgery, definitely. I know a handful of people who have had it, and they all did a lot of research about it and made an informed decision that was the best for them. I have no quarrel with that.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 29, 2009 5:04:42 pm PDT #3223 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

How awesome would this have been?