ita, I think some people took the point as being yay there is life left on Earth!
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sj - Jul 20, 2014 9:55:38 am PDT #27383 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Jessica - Jul 20, 2014 9:56:10 am PDT #27384 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Gack, my whitefont!! Put it back,put it back!
Jessica - Jul 20, 2014 9:58:45 am PDT #27385 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I took it as both. Because if there's an apex predator, then there's a food chain - polar bear implies seals implies fish implies plants, so it might be possible for humanity to survive. Except not, because they're probably going to be eaten by the polar bear.
§ ita § - Jul 20, 2014 10:10:21 am PDT #27386 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think the ending says a lot of things, but ultimately not much for us--life: 1, humanity: 0. No matter what animal they showed, there's life implied--that's good. But show the apex predator right there you don't have to spend much time going back and seeing if there were enough people left alive to repopulate a restroom stall--human eaters in the hizzouse!
Also, all this time, life has continued, and maybe if wizardry had been applied in trying to set down roots in a changed ecosystem, all that craziness and barbarity would have been pointless. But instead humanity took an opportunity to look as bad as possible.
Jesse - Jul 20, 2014 10:37:29 am PDT #27387 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Given everything else in the movie, I was pretty satisfied when I thought it might be the end (of the movie, and of humanity) when the screen went black after the train crashed.
sj - Jul 20, 2014 5:20:49 pm PDT #27388 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
I took it as both.
You're probably right.
Also, what ita said.
Given everything else in the movie
Jesse, me too. Having not read the graphic novel, I'm guessing that the polar bear was in there, because it would make a good panel for a comic book.
Zenkitty - Jul 20, 2014 5:41:18 pm PDT #27389 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
I've been reading about Snowpiercer (and reading the whitefont) to figure out if I want to see the movie. I read an interview with the creator (I think) that said the animal at the end was originally intended to be a deer, to show that there was still life outside the train and so humans could survive, but they changed it because the polar bear was supposed to die out but if it didn't, that was a symbol of the humans also being able to survive. I don't know. I think without any prep, I would have been confused about what that was supposed to mean. FTR, I'm not sorry I've completely spoiled myself for this one. I want to watch it but only in the safety of my living room.
Typo Boy - Jul 20, 2014 9:45:30 pm PDT #27390 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
What the artist says is worth taking into consideration, but not the final word."Trust the tale, not the teller" - Neil Gaiman (though he may have been quoting someone else).
Zenkitty - Jul 21, 2014 4:30:07 am PDT #27391 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Right, Typo. I think I'd have preferred the deer, just for clarity. Like I said, the polar bear would have confused me as to what it meant for the story. I think I'll be totally okay with "and then they died, the end" in this case, though.
sj - Jul 21, 2014 7:17:26 am PDT #27392 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
What the artist says is worth taking into consideration, but not the final word."Trust the tale, not the teller" - Neil Gaiman (though he may have been quoting someone else).
This. I hate to say the filmmaker is wrong about what they think they presented on the screen, but there is a huge difference between a deer and a polar bear.