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Consuela - Jun 07, 2014 8:13:40 am PDT #27017 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

You know who has a great look for Wonder Woman that I don't remember having seen mentioned before? Alicia Coppola.

Oh, man, I love her! She was awesome in Jericho, and I just really like the look of her face, and of course the freckles.

Although I'd call her classic black Irish, rather than olive-skinned: you don't get freckles like that with olive skin, IMO.


§ ita § - Jun 07, 2014 8:39:37 am PDT #27018 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Freckles are trivial to erase--I will come out as saying that most European distinctions don't bother me much if the general looks can be matched with trivial and standard makeup, especially when Amazons were of multiple races, and Wondie's skin was painted the same colour as all the other white people.

As far as I can tell she's Italian. I don't know how olive they're supposed to be.


SailAweigh - Jun 08, 2014 10:21:10 am PDT #27019 of 30000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Info on freckles as relates to skin tone: Freckles.

Also, a map of the world by skin tone: Skin tone.

You'll note that the line between very light skin and the next tone up (which isn't even considered "olive" toned) bifurcates Italy, not quite in half. Northern Italy tends towards much fairer hair, due to the migration of Germanic and Celtic tribes from the times of the Roman Republic on.

Not quite comparable, I lived in Spain for three years and I saw a huge variation in skin tone and hair color from Nordic blonde to darker tones that most folks would have characterized as classic Mediterranean olive skin (often attributed negatively as belonging to "gitanos" or gypsies.) The majority seemed to fall somewhere in between. The ideal, from what I could tell, was relatively pale skin with straight, dark hair. Eye color didn't seem to factor in much. The person I can think of with the most "classic" Spanish looks is Penelope Cruz.


Tom Scola - Jun 08, 2014 10:53:50 am PDT #27020 of 30000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

So I finally saw X-Men yesterday. The post-credit sequence showed Apocalypse building a Great Pyramid which would have been c. 2500 BCE, and behind him were the four horsemen, but domesticated horses weren't introduced to Egypt until much later, c. 2000 BCE. Totally bogus!


quester - Jun 08, 2014 11:32:36 am PDT #27021 of 30000
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Scola to the makers of X-men, "Your arguments are invalid!"


§ ita § - Jun 08, 2014 11:34:40 am PDT #27022 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm probably one of the more freckle-faced posters here, so it's not like I don't think anyone can catch it. And I know the ideal is to cover them up (not that I've ever worn foundation), so I don't think a freckled actress gets in the way of much.


SailAweigh - Jun 08, 2014 12:44:13 pm PDT #27023 of 30000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Oh, me, neither. It was just once the subject of freckles came up, first I wondered "how common" and then "how come freckles". I had freckles just about everywhere as a kid, face, arms, even my knees. These days, you can only kind of see them on my arms.


Consuela - Jun 08, 2014 2:52:44 pm PDT #27024 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

This is kind of totally awesome: every superhero movie, in one four-minute take: [link]


§ ita § - Jun 10, 2014 7:34:49 am PDT #27025 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Cary Elwes (why does his face seesaw in puffiness so? I hope it's not health problems, like liver or something--it doesn't look really like weight gain) has written a book about filming The Princess Bride.

Excerpt:

Later, when they were just chatting, they were talking about American television. "I said, 'I love Bill Cosby,' and Rob said, 'You do?' 'Sure I do! I grew up on Fat Albert. In fact, I remember this ..." And then Elwes did a spot-on impression of Cosby's "Hey, hey, hey!" "And Rob said, later on, that was the key, that was the turning point. Had I not done a Fat Albert impersonation, I would probably not be sitting in front of you here today.

II hear if Wallace Shawn wrote one it would be vitriol.


P.M. Marc - Jun 10, 2014 8:20:08 am PDT #27026 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

As far as I can tell she's Italian. I don't know how olive they're supposed to be.

Depends on the Italian, and also how people are defining olive.

I'd always, in all my years of devouring cosmetics books, known olive as an undertone (can look faintly greenish, can be pale or deep), not a color depth. With the whole Hunger Games Katniss casting drama, apparently, other people had a different working definition.