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Polter-Cow - Apr 11, 2014 8:36:26 am PDT #26799 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My favorite Superman stories tend to focus on the fact that Clark Kent is an alien who can never be a true part of humanity, yet he is devoted to protecting humanity. The world is afraid of him and wants to kill him, but he doesn't care: he still loves them because he believes they can be better. It's his whole self-sacrificing Super Jesus thing he's got going on.

And for me, the first half of Man of Steel was close to the sort of character-focused, Clark-focused movie I would want, and then it turned into DESTROY EVERYTHING WHATEVER HUMANS.

Kalshane - Apr 11, 2014 9:37:28 am PDT #26800 of 30000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Superman actually has a lot going on, IMO. Clark is essentially three people: the bumbling mild-mannered reporter, the "Real Clark" that only his family and loved ones see and then Superman, the living symbol of truth and justice. The one who saves the world and inspires people to do their parts. Who hides his doubts and his fears because he needs to reflect the faith of those he is protecting.

Fake Clark and Superman each dress their part, while Real Clark is tied to the people he is with rather than what he's wearing.

Or something like that. I've re-written this several times and still don't feel like I'm getting my point across right.

§ ita § - Apr 11, 2014 9:37:52 am PDT #26801 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I stopped being able to deal with the story when his father told him to let the schoolbus drown. How are those Olsen ethics?

Connie Neil - Apr 11, 2014 9:41:42 am PDT #26802 of 30000
brillig

I think a Batman-Superman movie where Superman gives Batman the Krypton would be cool. I always loved that dynamic.

Tom Scola - Apr 11, 2014 9:41:50 am PDT #26803 of 30000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Assuming that a great movie can be made about Superman (i.e. he does not suck), what would you put in it?

This.

Kalshane - Apr 11, 2014 9:46:40 am PDT #26804 of 30000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'm also not a fan of "Super Jesus". I prefer that while his origins gave him powers, it was his upbringing that made him a hero.

ETA: That's perfect, Tom.

Polter-Cow - Apr 11, 2014 9:55:30 am PDT #26805 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That's one of my favorite single issues ever. It's amazing.

Kalshane - Apr 11, 2014 3:28:07 pm PDT #26806 of 30000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

This is another great Superman scene (be sure to scroll down to the see the follow-up pages in the comments): [link]

§ ita § - Apr 11, 2014 3:57:06 pm PDT #26807 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thanks.

I'm reading Birthright on recommendation right now.

Red Son is one of my favourites, but you can't come out of the gate with that.

Polter-Cow - Apr 11, 2014 4:54:48 pm PDT #26808 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, Birthright is great. Loved that one.

Besides All Star Superman, I recommend Up, Up, and Away! and Secret Identity, both by Kurt Busiek.

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