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Polter-Cow - Jul 09, 2013 6:07:20 am PDT #24864 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Speaker for the Dead is almost as good as Ender's Game (enough so to make it one of my favorite SciFi novels) but the rest of the books are terrible.

Yeah, I love Speaker for the Dead, and Xenocide is okay, and Children of the Mind is awful. I also love Ender's Shadow, but the rest of the Bean books get progressively worse too. And yet I still own them for completism (bought used, so no money to OSC). I also love Pastwatch. And if/when I buy it to own it, it'll be used.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 09, 2013 6:07:50 am PDT #24865 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Card gets no more of my money ever, but I don't feel strongly enough about it to form a picket line outside the theater or anything.


Jessica - Jul 09, 2013 6:09:47 am PDT #24866 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Ender's Shadow is one of the few books I have literally thrown across a room. I was willing to put up with the shitty writing, but the character assassination of Petra was just too much for me.


Polter-Cow - Jul 09, 2013 6:15:57 am PDT #24867 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I don't remember that in the first book, but I was definitely irritated with how he handled her in the later books. It's been a long time since I've read them.


§ ita § - Jul 09, 2013 7:13:41 am PDT #24868 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am with Matt as regards to disbursement of my money in the future. Ender's Game was excellent, Speaker for the Dead was very good, and the man is not just someone I disagree with, he's someone who's fighting to disenfranchise human beings. I don't think any books are more important to me than that, but I'll keep evaluating books as I read them.

I read a few of his other books before I knew anything about the guy, but there was enough there there for me to engage in "is this guy alright???" conversation with other sci fi reading friends. I cooled on him during Alvin Maker, I think.


le nubian - Jul 09, 2013 7:44:30 am PDT #24869 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I have never read one thing by him. I think I started Ender's Game years ago but never finished it.


Typo Boy - Jul 09, 2013 9:58:30 am PDT #24870 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

You can get any of his books you wish used, which avoids him getting any of your money. Or, if ownership of books is not important to it, you can get it in your local library, being careful not to put wear and tear on it, and being careful to return it on time so you are not encouraging them to buy more. Possibly in the library case, your best bet is to read it in the library so you do not add to the list of the number of people checking it out.


§ ita § - Jul 09, 2013 10:08:32 am PDT #24871 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You can get any of his books you wish used, which avoids him getting any of your money

Unless you affect the supply and demand enough to make someone else buy new who would have bought your copy instead.

Clearly piracy is both insupportable and the only answer that doesn't smell.

But that could be LA libraries.


§ ita § - Jul 09, 2013 2:58:04 pm PDT #24872 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I will actually be able to stop and think and gain pleasant feelings knowing I did not, have not, and will not (pay to: I may pirate for the looksee) see Ender's Game. I'm a generally smug bitch, but this guy is working my last self-righteous nerve: [link]


Juliebird - Jul 09, 2013 3:13:12 pm PDT #24873 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

::pukes::

It is the permanent or semipermanent bond between a man and a woman, establishing responsibilities between the couple and any children that ensue.

The laws concerning marriage did not create marriage, they merely attempted to solve problems in such areas as inheritance, property, paternity, divorce, adoption and so on.

Um, yeah, you say that like gay people don't want those same things. Gay marriage is solving problems like inheritance, property, paternity, divorce, adoption, and so on.