Gaudi was Modernist - they used the same lines as Nouveau, but twisted them to hell and back.
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juliana - Jun 11, 2009 11:25:36 am PDT #2401 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
Connie Neil - Jun 11, 2009 11:26:20 am PDT #2402 of 30000
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the Chrysler building
One of the world's most perfect skyscrapers. I love Nouveau for small things--jewelry, lamps, etc.--but the Metro entrances are on the borderline. I suspect my Puritan ancestors had a lot more influence on my artistic tastes than I thought. I am not often experimental.
megan walker - Jun 11, 2009 11:28:44 am PDT #2403 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
I like both, they're just really different and my boss thinks they are interchangeable and it drives me bonkers.
We have a book whose design is based on Art Nouveau, so we have to use these terms to describe it and she is constantly challenging me on this.
Really, "I have a PhD in this sh*t, will you just trust me on this and shut it?" is in standard rotation in my sh*t-I-didn't-say file.
Atropa - Jun 11, 2009 11:30:01 am PDT #2404 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
Connie, if you don't want the DVD, I would be delighted to give it a good home. Because I can't really steal the copy the pet DJ has; he needs it for the club.
Connie Neil - Jun 11, 2009 11:31:11 am PDT #2405 of 30000
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What's the time frame on Modernist, and where does it stand re: World War I? My early 20th century history is sadly lacking, but I get the impression that WWI caused a lot of sociological weirdness, complete reinterpretation of society, etc.
--which is my pseudo-intellectual way of bringing the discussion back to Caligari etc.
Connie Neil - Jun 11, 2009 11:31:58 am PDT #2406 of 30000
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Connie, if you don't want the DVD, I would be delighted to give it a good home.
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megan walker - Jun 11, 2009 11:32:32 am PDT #2407 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
I get the impression that WWI caused a lot of sociological weirdness, complete reinterpretation of society, etc.
Well, in Europe anyway.
ETA: Modernism really depends on the field, but it could be as early as late-19th century. Except in history, which uses the fall of Constantinople in the 15th century as a transition point.
Fred Pete - Jun 11, 2009 11:37:31 am PDT #2408 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.
The National Gallery of Art had a big Art Nouveau exhibit one winter. Which I saw many times, because the National Gallery of Art is a reasonable walk from the office.
Art Nouveau was less a specific style than an attitude of experimentation in reaction to the Conventional Wisdom of the time. It had a lot of influences -- from nature (especially vines) to the Japanese.
juliana - Jun 11, 2009 11:37:55 am PDT #2409 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
What's the time frame on Modernist, and where does it stand re: World War I?
I should have really called it Modernisme w/r/t Gaudi, since Modernist can be applied much more broadly. My bad. Modernisme is about the same timeframe as Art Nouveau. And yes, WWI Fucked Shit Up But Good.
tommyrot - Jun 11, 2009 11:38:44 am PDT #2410 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I get the impression that WWI caused a lot of sociological weirdness, complete reinterpretation of society, etc.
Yeah. There was this belief in vogue that war was a force that resulted in the betterment of society and stuff. But after WWI, that belief fell from favor....