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le nubian - Feb 11, 2013 7:25:07 pm PST #23531 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

(hahahahaha)

Uh no.


Connie Neil - Feb 11, 2013 7:27:26 pm PST #23532 of 30000
brillig

My knowledge of movies trends to run old.


Typo Boy - Feb 11, 2013 9:30:51 pm PST #23533 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah I was think of the Price-Karloff one too - which was highly entertaining Schlock, but really fun schlock. And had absolutely nothing to do with the poem (other than stealing a few lines and one character name from the poem, completely out of context ). If you ever rent it and find it does not appeal, then before turning it off, fast forward to the magical duel and watch that.


Strega - Feb 11, 2013 10:25:06 pm PST #23534 of 30000

I'd give either On Her Majesty's Secret Service or From Russia With Love a shot, depending on which you think is more likely to hit the sweet spot. But I think Bond is its own genre and if you didn't grow up with it... It's difficult to say "oh yes, it's often appallingly racist and sexist, and very serious about completely ridiculous things, and goofily glib about serious things, and you just need to roll with that!"

I mean, it is an odd franchise.

Y'know, actually I might go with Matt's rec of Moonraker or (even better/worse) A View to a Kill. If this is someone who can appreciate a terrible movie, at least. I'm quite serious -- instead of "This is one if the good ones" you might be better off with "Everyone agrees, this is just crap. But it does follow the formula, so if you see it done terribly and giggle , you're entertained, and later you may enjoy it more when it's done well. I can at least guarantee you won't be bored!"


Fred Pete - Feb 12, 2013 6:18:55 am PST #23535 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

It's difficult to say "oh yes, it's often appallingly racist and sexist, and very serious about completely ridiculous things, and goofily glib about serious things, and you just need to roll with that!"

At heart, James Bond is the hero of a 14YO boy's fantasy world. More so in the Connery-Lazenby-Moore era, but still to some extent now.


le nubian - Feb 12, 2013 6:50:58 am PST #23536 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

very serious about completely ridiculous things, and goofily glib about serious things, and you just need to roll with that!"

I think this is the part that might get his goat. The man watches movies on TCM, so the racism and sexism can't always be deal breakers. Going the terrible movie route would be something I would go for (I saw "The Living Daylights" first run in a movie theater in college), but he actually might turn the tv off. He likes Cary Grant, he has liked the Bourne Identity trilogy, he likes superhero movies in general (though he is bitter about X-men 3) it doesn't seem to me to be a huge leap from those interests to Bond.

But maybe Beau exists in that sweet spot of carefully silo'd interests.


§ ita § - Feb 12, 2013 8:56:50 am PST #23537 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm always surprised that Bond is optional. I thought it was pretty much the only "normal" movie I watched without fail. Since I saw my first one in the theatres, I've seen them all in the theatres. I've never though :"oh, I'll wait until rental". I don't own many, but I can't surf past one, or even past a marathon.

James Bond is the man. Not a costumed superhero or an alien or anything--he's the regular hero that everybody cheers for.

This might be linked to living in the Commonwealth until my early 20s, and Jamaican and Britain specifically for much of that. Ain't nowhere Bondier than either of those places.


smonster - Feb 12, 2013 5:55:49 pm PST #23538 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

It's difficult to say "oh yes, it's often appallingly racist and sexist, and very serious about completely ridiculous things, and goofily glib about serious things, and you just need to roll with that!"

I grew up watching old school Bond and enjoying it. I haven't watched one in a while, so I don't know how I'd feel about them now... but current Bond is most definitely Not My Beautiful Cake.


Connie Neil - Feb 12, 2013 7:50:03 pm PST #23539 of 30000
brillig

I grew up primarily with the Moore Bonds, but I find him very smarmy now. But my favorite movies are the one in Louisiana with Jane Seymour and the one with Christopher Lee. The redneck sheriff is hysterical.


megan walker - Feb 13, 2013 6:01:28 am PST #23540 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I grew up primarily with the Moore Bonds, but I find him very smarmy now.

I too grew up with Moore, but that gives me a certain fondness for him. I do like The Man with the Golden Gun (the Christopher Lee one) quite a bit. The Spy Who Loved Me and Live and Let Die are pretty good too.

However, I would put most of the Connery Bonds above them on any list. Thunderball would go on top, but only because the opening sequence (with the jet pack) takes place in my mother’s hometown, at the Château d’Anet, where my aunt’s future husband worked as a butler during the Occupation. You can actually see one of my cousins as a choirboy in the chapel with the coffin.

The count and countess must have needed money back then since the grounds were also used for one of the Pink Panther movies.

I haven't seen all of the post-Moore movies, but I've seen each Bond at least once. I really liked Skyfall and it has made me want to see all of them.