Sound like Dadaists.
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Connie Neil - Jan 11, 2013 4:55:28 pm PST #23367 of 30000
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Sophia Brooks - Jan 11, 2013 5:00:57 pm PST #23368 of 30000
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From my perspective, it isn't musical theatre buffs considering les mis to be sub par, it is theatre people thinking musical theatre/popular theatre is lesser than srs bizness theatre, evidenced by liking Les Mis.
Juliebird - Jan 11, 2013 5:09:56 pm PST #23369 of 30000
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Okay, but why does Les Miz seem to be the example? Why not by liking Phantom, or Spamalot, or Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat?
Hil R. - Jan 11, 2013 5:11:49 pm PST #23370 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I usually see either Phantom or Cats used as the example of over-the-top eighties musicals.
Sophia Brooks - Jan 11, 2013 5:15:24 pm PST #23371 of 30000
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I think Phantom would have the same reaction, because I think the reaction is to the earnestness of the love, and not really doing "new" things other than spectacle. Spam a lot ( and Jiseph) don't take themselves so seriously
DebetEsse - Jan 11, 2013 5:17:54 pm PST #23372 of 30000
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Yeah, Andrew Lloyd Weber musicals are generally not actually taken seriously (Phantom does well when when the tourists are in town). And Spamalot is too self-aware of its ridiculousness to be the exemplar. Les Mis is just traditional enough to be accessible (as opposed to Sunday in the Park with George), but also has enough depth to not be fluff, and its earnestness is intensely mockable, if your tendencies lean that way.
Dana - Jan 11, 2013 5:19:17 pm PST #23373 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
I also cry during Phantom.
Not Spamalot so much.
Sophia Brooks - Jan 11, 2013 5:21:54 pm PST #23374 of 30000
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Also, I was in college for theatre when Les Mis was super-popular, and I personally quickly learned that liking it put you in the same camp as people who did theatre for a "hobby". I am not claiming that college theatre students aren't often pretentious twats.
Jessica - Jan 11, 2013 5:48:57 pm PST #23375 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Yeah, Les Miz was always in that "too popular to be cool" category. Along with Phantom and Cats and the other mega-hits on Broadway in the 80s.
SuziQ - Jan 11, 2013 6:17:28 pm PST #23376 of 30000
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame
That may be why I avoided Les Mis for so long. I love it to pieces now. I tried Cats...but nope, not for me. And I love, adore, cherish musicals.
My father is one of those who thinks musicals are not serious business but when ACT did Urinetown and Phantom he loved them. I think he even saw Jersey Boys at ACT. I guess if it is on THAT stage, it is ok, but if it is at the Golden Gate Theater or the Orpheum, then it isn't worthy.