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Vonnie K - Nov 29, 2012 7:39:55 am PST #22863 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Gratified to hear all the good Les Miz reviews!

I am not a big fan of musical theater but went to see Les Miz live. Twice, I think, in my late teens. The songs are a part of cultural repertoire by now. I would think even the folks who have never seen the show or read the novel would feel at least a bit of familarity after hearing the first few lines of "On My Own" or "I Dreamed a Dream" sung. Whassaname -- Susan Boyle? The one who won that British singing competition and was in all the presses. Her big song was I Dreamed a Dream, right?


askye - Nov 29, 2012 7:40:50 am PST #22864 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

I have never seen the stage production - either live or on tape. I've never heard the full soundtrack and I probably couldn't pick out any song from this before I saw the trailers.

But watching the trailer I really want to see it. I'm also trying to read the book, I think I need to go back to the beginning now that Ive read a summary and have a better idea of what is going on.


Fred Pete - Nov 29, 2012 7:55:23 am PST #22865 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

Now I find myself wondering if it's usually abridged in English like Count of Monte Cristo.

Abridged version of Les Miz (the novel) can be okay -- there's a lot of extraneous stuff there. But read the unabridged Count of Monte Cristo -- the abridged version is basically a "cleaned up" version for squeamish American audiences and leaves out a lot of the plot. Including a barely-veiled lesbian relationship.


Connie Neil - Nov 29, 2012 7:58:59 am PST #22866 of 30000
brillig

But read the unabridged Count of Monte Cristo

Yes! Yes! The discussions on gardening, the political nuances. I'm going to have to re-read, I can't remember if the old man is M. Nortier or not.


askye - Nov 29, 2012 8:06:36 am PST #22867 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

I have both of those on the Kindle, free version. but I'm thinking maybe a version with footnotes would be a good idea.


le nubian - Nov 29, 2012 8:11:58 am PST #22868 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Wow 'Suela, that was probably the clearest most pithy description of Les Miz I have ever read. Mad props.


megan walker - Nov 29, 2012 8:13:00 am PST #22869 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

This was me as well. Though the lyric changes bothered me more than the different singing (though the later irked as well.) Really, American production, you seriously need Javert to sing about putting Valjean "safe behind bars"? Ugh.

This cracks me up since the whole thing was translated, but I understand since it still bugs me that they translated the English in Harry Potter.

The only song I distinctly prefer in the French version is "Mon prince est en chemin" ("Castle in a Cloud") just because the lyrics are so much better and are integrated later on in songs with the older Cosette. Plus, the whole thing calls back to "Someday My Prince Will Come." Gavroche's song "La faute à Voltaire" is pretty witty too.

Otherwise, I think they did a pretty good job and they made some excellent structural choices such as fleshing out Javert's role and moving the "Air de la misère" originally sung by Fantine to be Eponine's "On My Own" (although this means Fantine disappears pretty quickly).


§ ita § - Nov 29, 2012 8:51:34 am PST #22870 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Replace "And a bad haircut?" with "And someone steals bread?" and you have me

If there is bread, they're not as poor as I was thinking.


Vonnie K - Nov 29, 2012 8:55:23 am PST #22871 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

From Huffington post article, which talks about Oscar chances for various films including Les Miz: [link]

Which is too bad for "Zero Dark Thirty." We can review that one, and I have no trouble in saying it is, by far, the best movie I've seen in 2012. Kathryn Bigelow's "Hurt Locker" follow-up is superior in almost every way to that Best Picture winner, and it makes Jessica Chastain and Jason Clarke legitimate movie stars. (Jason Clarke's Oscar campaign starts here, by the way. He's like Jeremy Renner, if Jeremy Renner was interesting.)

The dig at Renner cracked me up, and I am talking from a pro-Renner camp. And I forgot Jennifer Ehle was in the film as well! Can't wait.


Jessica - Nov 29, 2012 9:03:34 am PST #22872 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Technically there isn't any bread when the show begins, since it was stolen 20 years earlier.