Damn you, Bridget! Damn you to Hades! You broke my heart in a million pieces! You made me love you, and then you-- I SHAVED MY BEARD FOR YOU, DEVIL WOMAN!

Monty ,'Trash'


Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Dana - Jul 21, 2012 6:09:07 am PDT #21868 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Oh, so, I did not get a Hobbit preview, and I am grumpy about that. I did get a Superman Returns preview, which I found very distracting because the music that played over it was the Elves' lament for Gandalf from Fellowship of the Ring.


billytea - Jul 21, 2012 6:10:18 am PDT #21869 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I did get a Superman Returns preview, which I found very distracting because the music that played over it was the Elves' lament for Gandalf from Fellowship of the Ring.

"You won't believe a man can fly, you fools!"


§ ita § - Jul 21, 2012 6:13:13 am PDT #21870 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"I am no man."


Calli - Jul 21, 2012 6:39:55 am PDT #21871 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Fool of a Kent!


Polter-Cow - Jul 21, 2012 8:03:56 am PDT #21872 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Tom Hardy did some impressive eye-acting.

He really did. Especially then, that was when I noticed.

Because I was where P-C was.

I think what did it was that everyone assumed she was Talia, but then they gave her this Miranda Tate name, so I just figured, okay, they are wrong. And then I just never thought about it for months. It wasn't even on my mind as a possibility, an idea. I didn't read a lot about the movie, so there wasn't a lot of Talia Talia Talia in my head. So it completely blindsided me.

because he moved with such grace and assurance and menace

I love the way he moves after breaking him. It's that trailer shot where he saunters away and tosses away the mask.

And I think the bat-voice seemed to be less growly? It never bothered me much, but was it less ridiculous for people who found it ridiculous?

I think...I think it was still kind of ridiculous. I could hear some snickering almost every time he spoke. But there were a few times where his Bats voice sounded almost Bruce-y.

That really gave me chills, because I knew what was going to happen, but now there was context--I couldn't work out precisely what or why before, and this made it all so horrible.

Yeah, I knew what was going to happen, but I wasn't prepared for all the bombs all around Gotham, and then I realized that must be when the bridges were going to blow too, and then HE BLEW UP THE MAYOR, and then things just got worse.

I love this Inception meme, and I love this iteration of it: [link]

Ahahaha, I was actually looking for a Leo cameo. I thought I might have spotted him in the stock exchange, but I was wrong.

Oh, can someone explain how Blake knew Bruce was Bats? I couldn't follow that. I got that he recognized Bruce as a fellow orphan who could understand his pain and anger, but I didn't hear any actual experience with Batman that led him to connect the dots.

Also, I wonder how they explained that Bruce Wayne died on the same day as Batman. Well, I guess a lot of people died that day. But I wonder how he was supposed to have died.


Dana - Jul 21, 2012 8:05:48 am PDT #21873 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

All I can hear now is Abed doing the Batman voice.


Steph L. - Jul 21, 2012 10:00:17 am PDT #21874 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Hey, was Bane's coat swanky, or what? I want to know where he shops.

All I can hear now is Abed doing the Batman voice.

Tim said, like ita, that he thought the growly Bat-voice was less ridiculous this time, but I said that all I could think, every single time he did it, was Abed.

I think...I think it was still kind of ridiculous.

I did, too. It always makes me just roll my eyes and want to offer him tea with honey.

Also, I wonder how they explained that

Okay, yeah. Tim and I talked about that for a long time last night -- the city knew that Batman "died" to save them, but was it just assumed that Bruce Wayne was killed in the Bane-inspired mayhem? I was REALLY unclear on that.

I also missed that Bane killed Batmanuel. Damn it!

The scene where everything was exploding all around Gotham, and the fucking bridges collapsing was HORRIFYING to me.

There were a lot of moments I had my hands over my mouth in shock -- that was one of them. Another was when Bane came up through the tunnel floor into Wayne Inc.'s R&D department. I think I actually said "HOLY SHIT!" audibly, but that was such a loud scene, no one heard me. (I also said "Holy SHIT!!!" at the Talia reveal, and everyone heard me, because the theater was fairly quiet.

Let me tell you, I was SO ANNOYED at the idea that Bane was Ra's Al Ghul's son, because you just don't mess with that big of a part of canon. So the Talia reveal was satisfying on so many levels for me. (She never addressed Batman/Bruce as "beloved," did she? Because that always, ALWAYS annoyed me in the comics.)

It didn't feel like he was in the same sound landscape as the other characters

Maybe that was my issue with Bane's dialogue -- I said he sounded sort of like a sports announcer, but maybe it was more just being in a different sound landscape. But he really did have an edge of sideshow barker to his voice that was really close to yanking me out of the story -- but not quite, thankfully.

I am tickled especially pink (no mean freest when you're high yellow) that Steph is so explosively joyous about it.

I realize this will be the third time I've posted this sentiment, but I CANNOT get over that final shot. I am crazy in love with it.


Zenkitty - Jul 21, 2012 10:15:45 am PDT #21875 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

OKAY, people, fine, I'll go see TDKR in the theater! I wasn't gonna, you know, because I didn't like the second movie very much. In fact, I didn't see either of the first two all the way through.

I shall watch the first two -for realz- this weekend and then go see Verbs. Are you happy now, with your tantalizing whitefont? Stop tormenting me!


§ ita § - Jul 21, 2012 10:29:32 am PDT #21876 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I could watch it again tomorrow, no kidding you. But I won't, because it's dilaudid day. And I can't believe what autocorrect did with my attempt at feat in that post...must go back and correct the human way.

I cried more this time, because I knew what was going to happen. I knew which scenes required sustained tears, so I was all geared up. Obviously the explosion of Gotham, from about halfway through the anthem until the sinking it-- Steph the skybox with the mayor in it blows up while the field is going. There's just one player left on the edge of the field--the guy who presumably got Gotham's last touchdown for a while--or was it Sky City? I admit I didn't notice which team. I also cried at least when Selina betrayed Batman, and when she came back and killed Bane (and when she helped the kid whose brother had died in the tunnels (not that many orphans in a city of 12 million--that's cool). When Bruce got out of prison (notice how his cartilage problem kinda cleared up?), I cried too, and when Blake tried to get the kids out of Gotham, I cried.

And maybe other times. I made sure to stop before the end. I would not let myself cry during the funeral, which is admittedly easier the second time round, but Alfred kills it in that scene, and it was tough. I think the kid next to me was scrubbing his face around that time.

I also took the liberty of closing my eyes a few times--that was nice. Every time a prisoner fell trying to climb out of the prison, for instance--I can get by just hearing that from now on.

For some reason I panicked this time through that Lucious didn't make it out from under the river-- I didn't remember seeing him at the the end.

Still lots of feels. Oh, god, feels. I know I'm forgetting some--I made so many mental notes--way more than I actually have mental storage for.

There was a police presence outside the theatre, which made me feel uneasy. I read some people saying that movies were going to feature less gunplay, but that's pretty ridiculous--what are they going to do? Last minute edits? Delay releases? I'm thinking not. We had lots of gunfire in the previews (no Hobbits, but I'm fascinated by the idea the Superman teaser is elves), but I do hear the trailer with the gunfire in a movie theatre is being edited, which I can dig. I imagine the movie will escape intact, however.


Steph L. - Jul 21, 2012 10:36:25 am PDT #21877 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

So, people who saw it (obviously) -- did you believe Batman was going to blow himself up to save Gotham? Or did you think, well, no, he's Batman; therefore he MUST have a plan?

Because I *totally* believed he was willingly blowing himself up, and here's why: (1a) Last movie in the trilogy. Why not kill him? (1b) Even before the very end with Blake in the cave, I was already envisioning Blake taking over the cape and cowl -- if Bruce is dead, there's still a Batman (actually, I started envisioning it way early in the movie -- when Blake gives Bruce a ride home and Bruce says, "Anyone can be the Batman"). (2) Bruce and Alfred talked WAY too much about the potential of Bruce dying (plus Batman telling Catwoman he hadn't yet sacrificed everything for Gotham). (3) When Gordon said "Bruce Wayne?", that's just the kind of thing that happens in stories, isn't it? The big reveal just prior to the big sacrifice. (4) He's the goddamn Batman. That's what he DOES.

WEEPING, I tell you.

(Part of me has trouble believing that Bruce would give it up. I don't think that's what he does, no matter how much Alfred guilt-trips him. No matter whether there's John Blake around or not, Bruce Wayne doesn't walk away from being Batman. I don't think he would run off to Florence to drink Fernet with Selina Kyle. I'm basically okay with it as part of *this* specific story that this specific movie told, but overall I don't think it's consistent with his character.)