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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Steph L. - Jul 20, 2012 8:14:55 am PDT #21826 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

the summary singled his character out as the best in the movie.

Really? Intriguing.

I feel like, in a lot of ways, Batman Begins is about Jim Gordon as much as Bruce Wayne.* And The Dark Knight is about Harvey Dent almost more than Batman. So I'm wondering if there's a similar character in Dark Knight Verbs.

*(The end of Batman Begins, between Jim Gordon and Batman, is one of my favorite film endings ever. "I never said thank you." "And you'll never have to.")


Amy - Jul 20, 2012 8:19:35 am PDT #21827 of 30000
Because books.

Where did Dark Knight Verbs come from? I'm missing the joke somewhere.


Polter-Cow - Jul 20, 2012 8:22:30 am PDT #21828 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Really? Intriguing.

The actual line is "the character who lingers longest in memory."

I feel like, in a lot of ways, Batman Begins is about Jim Gordon as much as Bruce Wayne.* And The Dark Knight is about Harvey Dent almost more than Batman. So I'm wondering if there's a similar character in Dark Knight Verbs.

Ooh, interesting! Maybe it's him.

*(The end of Batman Begins, between Jim Gordon and Batman, is one of my favorite film endings ever. "I never said thank you." "And you'll never have to.")

Yes. I love their relationship. It reminds me of the scene at the end of No Man's Land where he takes off his mask for him, but Gordon refuses to look. There's such an interesting trust between them.


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2012 8:29:12 am PDT #21829 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It reminds me of the scene at the end of No Man's Land where he takes off his mask for him, but Gordon refuses to look. There's such an interesting trust between them.

Oh my god, Gordon is so ANGRY at Batman in NML, and that scene is so amazing. (Also, there's no way -- in the comics -- that Gordon doesn't know Bruce Wayne is Batman. At least pre-new 52. I don't know what in the hell goes on now.)

Where did Dark Knight Verbs come from? I'm missing the joke somewhere.

I think ita said it once, because "Dark Knight Rises" is easy to confuse with "Dark Knight Returns" (the graphic novel).


le nubian - Jul 20, 2012 9:06:05 am PDT #21830 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Beau and I saw the film. I pretty much agree with ita's take including the love for JGL. He really was excellent in all the ways. I thought Hardy was pretty good. A reviewer complained about his mask covering his face and that he should have been allowed to take off the mask (!), but Hardy's physical acting was just superb throughout. One of the rare few who acts well with/without his face covered. Seriously.

Overall, I thought this was a great film. On par with TDK. I did not think this film was going to be that good. I think TDK is a better film, mostly because of Heath, but TDKR is a really good film nevertheless. The film is emotionally satisfying. This is kind of how the trilogy needed to end - and I very much liked how the script (several times over and over) linked themes, events, scenes, from both of the previous two movies to this one. The artful way in which these themes were weaved together is pretty amazing to me.

Casting spoilers did ruin one "surprise" for me, but setting that aside, apparently I have forgotten what was in the trailers for the film because I literally had forgotten the football stadium scene from the January-released trailer until I fucking saw the football stadium! Good grief.

Anne Hathaway was really wonderful. She did a great job and was very natural in the role.

As far as political messages: I find overall that the messages were not consistent: do you trust institutions, or not? Do we have hope as citizenry, or not? The police sacrificed themselves to confront Bane's army, and yet individual police would not let kids and other civilians be saved by crossing the bridge. It's almost like there is an embedded critique of Authority but perhaps not institutions. How can that be?

One purely superficial note: I want that fucking batcycle badly. I gasped every fucking time it was on screen. When it turned, I was like "oh my God!" out loud in the theater.


§ ita § - Jul 20, 2012 9:40:38 am PDT #21831 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Both the batcycle (does it have an official name?) and the Bat I really wanted to get my hands on I know they 100% work like they do in the movie, but are we talking 10%? How much? They were both massively cool.


Steph L. - Jul 20, 2012 5:11:14 pm PDT #21832 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

At the theater. 30 MINUTES. There's a dude here in full Batman costume, but carrying his cowl, since masks aren't allowed but costumes are. It's way, WAY less crowded here than I expected for opening night.

I'M READY.


§ ita § - Jul 20, 2012 5:48:02 pm PDT #21833 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm so excited for Steph. I hope she's....well, she's probably watching previews.

I can't believe how many I got, at 3 fucking 30 in the morning. Could you not give a nod to the hour? Also, it was way stressy getting in, because the trilogy people were leaving, and they were jamming up the carpark with some strange decision-making. Oy.

Anyway, I did make it in enough time to buy a frozen berry lemonade and reach my seat (there was an argument in the C row about who sat where. Again, why, people? Your ticket, has information,, so look at it and behave. Do not make them have to call staff over and move a whole row (who didn't know each other, making it look like they'd been compounding an error) move over one seat. Just read. And behave.

They showed seven million trailers. Why does watch have Hill and Annoying Stiller and Annoying Vaughn? I suppose my question is when doe Ayoade make my movie, and he seems taller than I'd thought.

All the trailers were a basic waste of time until they rolled up on The Hobbit and it was gleebly flaily time on a Batman scale for me--that's the other thing that gets me to the theatre in the dark of night. Gollum. Looks great. Can't wait to fork over $75, insert catheter, and put on my 3D glasses. Then there was a Superman teaser, which I suppose was great if you have any faith in the movie, which I don't but I appreciate it belongs right before Batman starts. It's fair. Then...there was Rising.

But all the other crap? Was crap. Lots of it. Too early/late to be neutral or pleasantly surprised by stuff.


Aims - Jul 20, 2012 5:49:35 pm PDT #21834 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I GOT NO HOBBIT!

I object!


DebetEsse - Jul 20, 2012 5:53:43 pm PDT #21835 of 30000
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Sonofoabitch. Hobbit was the only one I actively wanted.