I think X is still considered more scandalous than NC17, but I also think it's not really about the morality of any it, but the fact that one of the biggest movie-going audiences is too young to see it. If America suddenly decided that its kids really should be watching porn, Hollywood would jump right on the bandwagon.
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Amy - Jul 11, 2012 6:36:36 pm PDT #21573 of 30000
Because books.
Strega - Jul 11, 2012 7:13:35 pm PDT #21574 of 30000
Was X so very scandalous as NC-17 is supposed to be now?
Yes. That's why NC-17 was created; X was interpreted as "porn." Similar to the way G is taken to mean "for kids." A lot of theaters wouldn't show X rated movies, and TV & newspapers often wouldn't accept advertising for them. So they thought a new code might not have the same stigma. Incorrectly, it turns out.
Now an X means that it wasn't submitted it to the MPAA for a rating; they don't use that code. If it's not actually porn, I think the SOP is to say "unrated" instead.
Last Tango in Paris was definitely seen as scandalous.
Caligula made $23 million. But it cost $22 million; Midnight Cowboy, Clockwork Orange, and Last Tango were all made for a couple million each.
beekaytee - Jul 12, 2012 6:42:47 am PDT #21575 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant
Just saw Safety Not Guaranteed today and OH MY GOD! so good. I loved it more than I have loved a movie I've seen in the theater in a long time.
200+ posts back, lisah said exactly what my friend and I said last night.
I absolutely adored Safety Not Guaranteed. It was completely satisfying. The script was terrific and every performance shone.
It reminded me of my favorite Dogme 95 and similar films:
- Italian for Beginners
- Mifune
- Wilbur Wants of Kill Himself
- A Slipping Down Life
I would happily see it again, in the theatre.
Sophia Brooks - Jul 12, 2012 6:45:31 am PDT #21576 of 30000
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I sort of interpret "NC-17" as arty porn. But the only NC-17 movie I have ever seen was Henry and June. I ended up buying it at a flea market because I was too embarrassed to rent an NC-17 movie in a small town. Also I am pretty sure they kept it in the "back room".
Although, come to think of it, I cannot imagine being an adult in a small town renting porn from high school kids who work in the video store. Who used the "back room"????
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 12, 2012 8:53:05 am PDT #21577 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I did when our local Premiere Video had a backroom.
le nubian - Jul 13, 2012 5:31:08 pm PDT #21578 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Beau and I are watching "Bullitt."
Dana - Jul 13, 2012 5:55:19 pm PDT #21579 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
We watched something with an actress who'd been in Strictly Ballroom. So now I'm making the husband watch Strictly Ballroom, thanks to Netflix.
§ ita § - Jul 13, 2012 5:56:28 pm PDT #21580 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Can you make Amy watch Strictly Ballroom? I tried, but it didn't work.
Dana - Jul 13, 2012 5:57:47 pm PDT #21581 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
I will make anyone watch Strictly Ballroom. The line starts here.
Amy - Jul 13, 2012 6:01:24 pm PDT #21582 of 30000
Because books.
It's on my list! I do want to see it!