I hated that Lively's character was, well, pretty much nonexistent. Being pretty and having sex seemd to be the extent of it. These two guys are totes in love with her, but there's nobody home.
I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.
Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'
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Scrappy - Jul 09, 2012 11:58:01 am PDT #21561 of 30000
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§ ita § - Jul 11, 2012 11:48:58 am PDT #21562 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Consuela - Jul 11, 2012 12:15:26 pm PDT #21563 of 30000
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I don't see how anyone can make that into a movie. Granted, I haven't read it, but isn't the most important part of it the sex? Or is this going to be the first mainstream blockbuster with an NC-17 rating?
§ ita § - Jul 11, 2012 12:23:11 pm PDT #21564 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Hmm. That raises a question. Which is the most popular NC-17 movie? And not over time, but in the initial release. And how does one phrase that google search?
I feel like Box Office Mojo should just volunteer this information to me and save me the effort.
Amy - Jul 11, 2012 12:35:28 pm PDT #21565 of 30000
Because books.
Well, 9 1/2 Weeks was all about sex, and pretty graphic for its time.
There's also a lot you can do with the sort of doorway scene - - you show one of them tied up, or one of them with a whip in hand, and then you cut away and leave the rest to imagination.
Amy - Jul 11, 2012 12:45:12 pm PDT #21566 of 30000
Because books.
It's not initial release, but I'm getting Showgirls ($20 million lifetime) and then Henry and June ($11.5 million) by a pretty wide margin.
§ ita § - Jul 11, 2012 1:00:00 pm PDT #21567 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Showgirls was also probably the highest grossing in the theatres of the ones ranked, since it's the least "art house" of them, and it's American. But, damn, I was imagining Secretary as a parallel in more ways than one, but that only grossed about five mil.
Looking at R rated movies, most of them are rated based on violence, not sex. Hangover is...crudity, not sensuality, and that has a massive lifetime of $277M. Hangover II at $254M. Wedding Crashers at $209. Pretty Woman is the first "chick sex" movie at $178M, and that's probably quite a bit of legacy money, and also not a lot of actual sex in the flick, that I can remember, just the scandalous idea that she's a prostitute--can someone set me right on what I'm forgetting? I don't like the movie much, so I'm even more likely to get it wrong. Bouncing down a few more spaces and you get Bridesmaids at #17 lifetime with $169M.
I guess it would feel like a tease to a lot of people for the mommy porn movie to skimp on actual content.
Amy - Jul 11, 2012 1:17:42 pm PDT #21568 of 30000
Because books.
There's some sexy lead-up stuff in Pretty Woman, and one scene where she's clearing about to give him a blow job, but not much that's actually shown. Even the one time they're fucking it's under the covers.
Amy - Jul 11, 2012 5:14:44 pm PDT #21569 of 30000
Because books.
I'm stumped on a couple of these. Nice work on the poster, though.
Strega - Jul 11, 2012 5:47:06 pm PDT #21570 of 30000
Are you including X along with NC-17?
Deep Throat made a lot of money. But how much isn't clear because of mob shenanigans. The FBI estimated $100 million.
Midnight Cowboy made $44 million in 1969. Which would be about $275 million in adjusted dollars.
Last Tango in Paris (1973): $36 million.
Clockwork Orange (1972): $26 million