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Buffista Movies 7: Brides for 7 Samurai  

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Scrappy - Jun 10, 2012 9:26:53 am PDT #21089 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Saw Prometheus last night. Beautifully art-directed and cast, loved watching it. The script made me roll my eyes forever. How did this rich guy manage to hire the world's stupidest scientists? Geologist who gets lost in a cave area MADE OF ROCKS. Biologist who doesn't know better than to make kissy faces at an unknown life form? Archeologist who discovers a wild theory he devoted his life to is true and then immediately sulks by a pool table because he didn't get to talk to the dudes he imagined?


le nubian - Jun 10, 2012 10:00:16 am PDT #21090 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Scrappy,

are you sure the area where he got lost was made of rocks? I thought that was part of the space vehicle and thus I was not certain what material it was made from.

Not for nothing, I completely agree with you at the levels of stupidity. It burned. real bad.


Consuela - Jun 10, 2012 10:05:44 am PDT #21091 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I really enjoyed this Bruce Banner vid: [link]


§ ita § - Jun 10, 2012 10:34:29 am PDT #21092 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not sure why a geologist couldn't get lost if they were in rocks, but I agree with LeN--that was the spaceship, wasn't it?

But, yeah--these were some resounding stupid people. Decision after decision was barely even a decision. And some of the obstacles were kind of random. When Shaw went into Inara's shuttle (that's totes what it looked like to me) in order to have the abortion, the gender discrimination of the machinery seemed really random. And, if it's designed for men (no foreshadowing there), how can you just talk it through an abortion? And why would it leave your womb? It thinks you're a guy, remember? And once all that was done, why don't you kill the fucking alien baby?

Oh, and why did that bit even happen? What orders was David under that told him to infect one of the crew members with black oil/purgatory monsters? Did it have to be him specifically? Because he was obviously going to sleep with someone right away and get her pregnant? What was supposed to happen as a result of that? How did it further Weyland's agenda? Or was it just random experimentation?


Anne W. - Jun 10, 2012 10:51:22 am PDT #21093 of 30000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I enjoyed Prometheus very much, despite the persistent dumbassery of many of the characters.

The worst example, IMO was when Shaw and Vickers were running away from the crashing space ship. Why the hell didn't they just RUN TO THE SIDE instead of resolutely keeping within squishing range?


§ ita § - Jun 10, 2012 11:39:43 am PDT #21094 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Zachary Levi in Thor 2: [link]


Dana - Jun 10, 2012 11:45:17 am PDT #21095 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Huh.


le nubian - Jun 10, 2012 11:46:17 am PDT #21096 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita,

so yeah, the differences between the male and female anatomy are such that if it were a stomach problem, I could see how, fuck it, just get the foreign body out, but since this foreign body was in an organ that men don't have, I just don't know how that's supposed to work. Not to mention that as fucking expensive as that self-surgical thing is, it fucking better work on men and women. WTF is the point then. in the theater, when the machine said that, I said out loud "fucking typical."

As far as David: I have seen interpretations of his actions that he was acting independently and decided to see if this material put in another human being might help his master. Makes no fucking sense of course because it follows no protocols regarding alien material. I mean WTF? I do not think he knew that the man would have kissy times with Dr. Shaw though. As drunk as he was, I'm surprised he could get it up.

As far as the alien baby: I think she thought she did kill it. She tried to cryo/freeze kill it, but apparently that didn't work. How Charlize Theron didn't notice that something was flapping around her medical chamber is beyond me.


§ ita § - Jun 10, 2012 11:57:18 am PDT #21097 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, the equivalent of a handwashing protocol would prevent most of the problems in the movie. Or a dose of common sense. Jesus.

I think it was clear that David was more than the soulless shell Weyland described him as in his holo-letter. He's definitely shown signs of initiative, and doing things to satisfy himself, and not some explicit externally determined goal. What was happening to the archaeologist anyway? Was it making him a space jockey who was then able to father space jockey babies? Was he some middle ground? Would he be able to answer the questions Weyland was looking for? But David was kinda random anyway--why was he listening in on Elizabeth's dreams? I mean, as far as the story goes. Was that just to indicate to us that he's creepy and doesn't understand boundaries? In terms of the narrative I'm not entirely sure what it achieved.


juliana - Jun 10, 2012 1:00:52 pm PDT #21098 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Zachary Levi in Thor 2: [link]

Hmmmph. As long as they don't recast Volstaag or Sif, I guess I'm okay. Ray Stevenson was one of the only reasons I sat all the way through the latest Three Musketeers.