Spike: At least give me Wesley's office since he's gone. Angel: He's not gone. He's on a leave of absence. Spike: Yeah, right. Boo-hoo. Thought he killed his bloody father. Try staking your mother when she's coming on to you! Harmony: Well…that explains a lot.

'Destiny'


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§ ita § - May 29, 2012 2:04:59 pm PDT #20792 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I do think it was too long. The fight scenes were great, but I don't think they needed that length. And, as noted, some of that could have been spent showing more Loki-brain to me, but I guess I'll accept (ho hum) that it's crazy pouty man with no clear endgame in mind.

A little kid tried to run out as soon as the last fight scene started, and the adult nearest him grabbed him back and covered his face. But the fidgeting really distracted me.

eta: My sister was left cold by everything not Coulson, and went as far as not remembering Hawkeye existed.


Jesse - May 29, 2012 2:14:57 pm PDT #20793 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The folks on the Slate Culture Gabfest podcast were all, "Big loud superhero movie, meh." I sort of feel like you shouldn't be allowed to review something if you aren't even generally open to the genre.


Polter-Cow - May 29, 2012 2:17:53 pm PDT #20794 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

A couple of my friends I expected to love it were underwhelmed. On the other hand, a friend who really hates Joss Whedon loved it.


Tom Scola - May 29, 2012 2:18:28 pm PDT #20795 of 30000
hwæt

"Big loud superhero movie, meh."

I’ve read several reviews like that. Some people just can’t see past the superhero thing. Including professional film critics.


Jesse - May 29, 2012 2:22:40 pm PDT #20796 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

See also Dana Stevens:

As a viewer, I might just qualify myself as tired of the chokehold the comic-book blockbuster has on our culture; as a critic, I’m starting to feel something akin to defeated by it. If guys in tights and capes must dominate our summer movie screens until we’re all pushing walkers into the multiplex, I guess I’ll resign myself to watching—but what on earth is there left to say about them?


Amy - May 29, 2012 2:26:07 pm PDT #20797 of 30000
Because books.

I hate it when people are purposely culturally ignorant. There's a reason the superhero resonates with the public, and it's *not* just because things blow up.

[Insert here intelligent discussion of superhero as a kind of faith, or at least moral compass, as well as a source of hope and inspiration, which I'm too tired to write.]


Matt the Bruins fan - May 29, 2012 3:34:29 pm PDT #20798 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Were superhero comics not touchstones of modern mythology to people brought up in the 50s and 60s? Because they were for my dad back in the 40s, and for me and my friends growing up in the 70s.


tommyrot - May 29, 2012 3:43:10 pm PDT #20799 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

My dad grew up in the '40s and would not allow us to read comics. It confused me at the time but me must have been influenced by the Congressional investigation of comic books in the 50s.

edit of Dad's growing-up time....


Amy - May 29, 2012 3:52:37 pm PDT #20800 of 30000
Because books.

Were superhero comics not touchstones of modern mythology to people brought up in the 50s and 60s? Because they were for my dad back in the 40s, and for me and my friends growing up in the 70s.

I think they were, absolutely. The difference is until ... the first Superman movie maybe?, they weren't as grand as they are now. And once you're putting big stars in them, people who wouldn't ordinarily watch a comic book movie will buy a ticket, too.


flea - May 29, 2012 3:58:08 pm PDT #20801 of 30000
information libertarian

I was born in 1972 and never read comics. I knew the Adam West Batman (in reruns), watched Wonder Woman with Lynda Carter, saw Superman, and remember Superfriends on '80s Saturday cartoons (I liked the Wonder Twins). I had never heard of Iron Man until the recent movie, and had only the vaguest notions of Thor and Captain America. (Hulk, a little harder to miss.) And I'd consider myself comics-adjacent thanks to many of you.

I haven't seen Avengers.