Yeah, I could do that, but I'm paralyzed with not caring very much.

Spike ,'Showtime'


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Steph L. - May 04, 2012 7:38:54 am PDT #19793 of 30000
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I AM DYING OF THE WAIT.

That is all.

(We're going to a 10:20 show, because of the way the times fell, that was the best choice to make sure we got there on time since Tim works late sometimes. But I am SO TEMPTED to just go to an afternoon show right the hell now.)

DYING.


Frankenbuddha - May 04, 2012 7:40:18 am PDT #19794 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I can't remember seeing an audience so INTO a movie as they were with Avengers. Even blew the midnight show of Dark Knight out of the water in terms of audience response. Granted, Avengers is a LOT more fun than Dark Knight (which I appreciate for its serious darkness), but it was also a smaller theater last night.


DavidS - May 04, 2012 7:44:47 am PDT #19795 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

You're not helping, Sail!

P-C, I think your strategy is to focus on all the little things that were wrong with recent Marvel superhero movies: the loss of narrative focus in the second Iron Man movie, shoe-horning Black Widow in without fleshing out her character so she's just a fancy cameo, the lack of an emotional hook in Thor, or even how much better Captain America's costume looked set in the 40s.

Focus on the negatives going in and then when you watch the actual movie you won't be comparing it against The Platonic Ideal of the SuperHero Movie, but on how/if Joss can address those issues.


Steph L. - May 04, 2012 7:44:55 am PDT #19796 of 30000
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I will kill time by going to buy a Captain America shirt. (Why yes, I am a slacker.)


SailAweigh - May 04, 2012 7:46:31 am PDT #19797 of 30000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

One of the things I really enjoyed was watching all these groups of women coming in together. Kind of explodes the myth that women don't like comics. For a while, the women in the audience outnumbered the men. We decided it was because women were less invested in seeing the movie in 3-D. (The 3-D line was almost exclusively male.)

One guy asked me if I was a "supportive mother" because, admittedly, I'm 20 years older than all my friends that I went with, and he was quite surprised when my friends immediately spoke up and said "oh no, not related to any of us, she's a nerd girl like us."


Steph L. - May 04, 2012 7:47:42 am PDT #19798 of 30000
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the loss of narrative focus in the second Iron Man movie

You misspelled "Tony's drunken dance party in the Iron Man suit." Why did moviemakers not learn from Spider-Man 3? The Batusi should never be emulated.

the lack of an emotional hook in Thor

Shirtless Thor aside, I felt there was plenty of an emotional hook. Sure, the plot's been done a million times, including by Shakespeare, but it worked for me.


DavidS - May 04, 2012 7:48:51 am PDT #19799 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Shirtless Thor aside, I felt there was plenty of an emotional hook.

Compared to Capt. America it felt a little emptier, more bombast. But whatevs, I enjoyed Thor but didn't think it was as good as the first Iron Man or Captain America.


Steph L. - May 04, 2012 7:53:57 am PDT #19800 of 30000
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Compared to Capt. America it felt a little emptier, more bombast.

Cap definitely got the bigger emotional wallop. Rightly so, I think. Just a different hero's journey. (Steve throwing himself on the fake grenade kills me every time. Damn.)

Thor is the Golden Boy, acts like a jackass, banished, sadface, learns his lesson, heads back home. Not the deepest of all emotional journeys, but it worked.


Vonnie K - May 04, 2012 7:54:03 am PDT #19801 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Dana Stevens from Slate didn't like it very much: [link]

But a colossally scaled blockbuster like The Avengers lacks both the agility and the motivation to question its reason for existence. Its primary purpose is not to explore or subvert the superhero movie, but to lay the groundwork for more of them

You can keep reading negative reviews (and there are a few) to dampen your enthusiasm! Although more likely, they'll just make you annoyed.


Steph L. - May 04, 2012 7:55:29 am PDT #19802 of 30000
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Dana Stevens from Slate didn't like it very much:

I read that, and I thought, well, if you go into it saying you've pretty much had your fill of comic book movies, then maybe this is the wrong movie for you.