the overall gist of the movie gave me a really clear idea what kind of atrocities the Capitol was capable of.
Right? They enjoy watching kids killing other kids for entertainment. These people are The Worst.
Reavers ain't men. Or they forgot how to be. Now they're just nothing. They got out to the edge of the galaxy, to that place of nothing, and that's what they became.
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bon bon - Apr 08, 2012 9:23:39 am PDT #19340 of 30000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Amy - Apr 08, 2012 9:27:12 am PDT #19341 of 30000
Because books.
They enjoy watching kids killing other kids for entertainment. These people are The Worst.
Oh, come on, bon. They give them really fancy hotel rooms and excellent food first!
Polter-Cow - Apr 08, 2012 9:27:31 am PDT #19342 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Some of them even get DESSERT!
smonster - Apr 08, 2012 9:29:18 am PDT #19343 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
I'm with javachik and le n. That bothered me more than the pin, for real.
Although I agree with ita that the book was somewhat unclear on whether they really were...
No, it's pretty clear. Besides the physical resemblance, each of those muttations has a collar with its district number on it. I just went to doublecheck, but I gave Nora her copy back.
Polter-Cow - Apr 08, 2012 9:34:46 am PDT #19344 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
That's not proof that they're actually made from the tributes, though. I assumed that was part of the fucked-up psychological torture. Mostly because at that point in the series, the level of technology to turn dead kids into monsters seemed absurd. But there are some fucked-up muttations in later books, so I don't know.
le nubian - Apr 08, 2012 9:41:32 am PDT #19345 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
P-C,
but see after finishing the 3rd book, the idea was cemented for me.
the author seemed to want us to know that they were capable of all kinds of genetic mutations for attractiveness and war. They jacked up the yellowjackets after all. Their power is strong.
tiggy - Apr 08, 2012 9:51:59 am PDT #19346 of 30000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
the origin of the pin doesn't become apparent until book two. so after re-reading it, i am a little perturbed at that change even though i still get why they didn't introduce another character. they could've had Prim give it to her when they were saying goodbye and tell her who it was from. *shrug*
javachik - Apr 08, 2012 10:01:59 am PDT #19347 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
Hey you guys, sorry if this was already brought up (I do most of my reading of teh interwebs on iPhone and so miss a lot of whitefont. But I just read on another site (that compiled the diffs between movie and book) something about Peeta losing his leg in the book? Does that happen? Yikes! It has been too long since I read the books and can barely remember. But certainly that is a huge difference than a healthy Peeta at the end?
§ ita § - Apr 08, 2012 10:04:44 am PDT #19348 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
We need a bigger hint to this brutality or the full weight of the other books will be lost IMO
I don't know if the movies need the full weight of the books to be really really heavy, honestly. It's not like the first movie painted the Capitol in any remotely positive light if you haven't read the books. They're already horribly exploitative monsters. At some point it risks becoming an enumeration of nasty ideas, and not events with distinct impact.
Just to be clear, we are allowed to have our own opinions here, right?
I'm assuming I get to have one too, right?
javachik - Apr 08, 2012 10:11:21 am PDT #19349 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
they could've had Prim give it to her when they were saying goodbye and tell her who it was from. *shrug*
That would have worked beautifully, because it wouldn't have been any additional screen time and would set up the meaning for the next movies very well.