Yeah, I got that, ita, and obviously the movie leaves out the idea that they physically represent the other tributes. But I don't know how they could have visually represented that and kept it PG-13. I personally found everything pretty grim even without it.

I'm with ita. It's a quibble, but it's not a fight I'd pick, unlike the origin of the mockingjay pin, the dearth of scenes of people watching the Games (forced to or not), and the unclear nature of Katniss and Peeta's relationship.

Just to be clear, we are allowed to have our own opinions here, right?

Just to be clear, we are allowed to have our own opinions here, right?

I'm not, but that's because I left my Opinionator on high and ran down the batteries. You're good to go.

Nah, no thanks.

bon bon,

yes, I suspect that having the beasts represented according to the books would have been really awful, but if werewolves can be PG-13, couldn't they have done this with beasts so that we could know they were the dead tributes?

It seems to me that what they could have done, is have them come from the same tubes that took them up at the beginning of the games and show them as some kind of half human/beast hybrid. I still feel like the lack of displaying exactly how horrible these people are by showing them using the bodies of dead tributes to genetically modify beasts to kill other tributes prepared me for what's to come in the other books.

We need a bigger hint to this brutality or the full weight of the other books will be lost IMO

Ooh, that's an interesting idea, le nubian. That would have been kind of awesome and terrible.

Just to be clear, we are allowed to have our own opinions here, right?

I'm not, but that's because I left my Opinionator on high and ran down the batteries.

I form my opinions from all of y'alls' opinions. But then it turns into a strange amalgamation, especially when some people are pro-glayvin and other people are anti-glayvin (and don't get me started on the splinter faction that's pro-REFORMED-glayvin).

Re: Hunger Games (which I still haven't seen, but I've been reading the whitefont because I needed to know how explicit the violence is -- i.e., how much we actually see play out onscreen) -- my biggest worry about the film is that they would keep the muttations the way they were in the book. That would have fucked me up to see.

Although I agree with ita that the book was somewhat unclear on whether they really were made from the dead tributes, or if it just seemed that way because Katniss was hallucinating. I would love to believe the latter, because it's less chilling, but given everything else that happens, I tend to believe it's the former.

It feels like making the muttations clearly some hybrid of beast and fallen tribute would have been a lot more CGI than the movie had otherwise, and might have been too frightening for the PG13 rating. I'm perfectly okay with them not being there -- the overall gist of the movie gave me a really clear idea what kind of atrocities the Capitol was capable of.

Just to be clear, we are allowed to have our own opinions here, right?

I think everyone's just expressing theirs, same as you.

Thanks for articulating that, le nubian.