May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


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§ ita § - Mar 30, 2012 1:23:57 pm PDT #19125 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I probably would have included Adventures of Milo and Otis on that list

I think if you expand the list very globally, you hit an issue of numbers even before you hit the issue of different regulations and animal welfare expectations.

We're all probably sure we shouldn't kill people to make a better movie. Perhaps.


Sean K - Mar 30, 2012 1:36:46 pm PDT #19126 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

My understanding is that all of those stories are true.


Amy - Mar 30, 2012 1:39:48 pm PDT #19127 of 30000
Because books.

I knew about the Hitchcock and Kubrick stuff, as well as the Buddy Ebsen story.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 30, 2012 1:48:35 pm PDT #19128 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

From what I'd read previously, the shooting of Cannibal Holocaust was alleged to have filmed actual rape and brutalization of some of the native extras, not simulated. Don't know if that's true, or how the filmmaker escaped conviction if so.

I've heard the part about Apocalypse Now from other sources.


Sue - Mar 30, 2012 3:00:59 pm PDT #19129 of 30000
hip deep in pie

Most of that stuff about Apocalypse Now is in the documentary Hearts of Darkness, made by Coppola's (ex?) Wife. There was a a scene where Coppola is arguing on the phone with producers in Hollywood against making Sheen's heart attack publicly known. At one point he's yelling into the phone "Marty's dead when I say he's dead!!"


Sophia Brooks - Mar 30, 2012 3:08:34 pm PDT #19130 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

What is a little scary to me is that I really don't find much of it shocking (except lettng the extras die, WTF?) Appalling, but not surprising


Connie Neil - Mar 30, 2012 3:14:22 pm PDT #19131 of 30000
brillig

What Sophia said. Very little actually surprises me anymore.


le nubian - Mar 30, 2012 3:48:37 pm PDT #19132 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I concur. Most of these stories I already had heard about. Not hyperbole.


Dana - Mar 30, 2012 4:12:57 pm PDT #19133 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Also not surprising is how often the mistreated people are women or native populations.


Typo Boy - Mar 30, 2012 4:19:04 pm PDT #19134 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I had not heard of most of it, but Hitchock's penchant for tormenting actresses was well known. Don't know if it is in the cracked article, but the Marx brothers were famous for abusive "antics" .